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TouchOSC or TB Midi Stuff?

I have a firstgen Korg NanoKontrol which I connect with the original Midiflow app to various music apps. I also have a Roland PCR-800 and set the buttons and sliders for one of the scenes to the same settings as that scene in my NanoKontrol so this way I can control my music apps with the NanoKontrol or my PCR800 with just making the one input change in Midiflow and it works great. I would love to recreate something like that in an app for times when I don't have my NanoKontrol with me but want to work on my music. Which app would any of you recommend to create a simple controller with latching and non-latching buttons as well as sliders? I'm leaning towards TB Midi Stuff but I have read some bad reviews on that so looking for some direction here. Thanks!

Comments

  • @Howard
    TB is quite good and simple if you don't plan to go too deep, but it's pretty much abandoned. Haven't heard from the dev for quite some time.
    I don't have TouchOSC, but it does seem capable.
    Other similar apps you might want to check:
    Midi designer - for touch response this is the best imo, active community, development, but it's sooo ugly.
    Lemur - steep learning curve, but it's very powerful, can be your one and only controller to fulfill all your needs.

  • Just get midi designer if you want to save yourself scripting headaches and the need to use a Mac to make any templates (looking at you lemur).

  • edited November 2018

    @recccp
    Thanks for that response. I plan on keeping it simple but we know how that always works out. :wink: It does seem like TB Midi Stuff has been abandoned although they have continued to make comments on their website and they have also been updating their other app, iTuttle, so they are around somewhere.

    @audiblevideo
    Thanks as well for your response. I agree that we would prefer not to have to use our computers to make templates which is also why I am less interested in TouchOSC than in TB Midi Stuff.

    Well, perhaps someone has had experience with TB Midi Stuff and working with AU apps and Audiobus etc. can let us know how it went for them. My inclination is to try TB Midi Stuff first unless of course someone has any horror stories to share about it. :smiley:

  • @Howard
    Tbh for most parts I really liked TB. There were few bugs, but for majority of use they weren't apparent. Unless you plan to go deep in advanced sysex stuff (like 'decoding' synth preset dumps) or want huge multipage controllers you should be fine. Building your controller on the iPad is pretty easy and straight forward, you can customise your layout to your liking (including customised bitmap images).

  • TB Midi Stuff is excellent! Not even a contest with TouchOSC, unless you need OSC. Lemur has some added power, but IMO not in any areas that would get practical use for most people. And it also requires hooking up to a PC. It’s just not worth it.

    However, as much as I like TB, I’m using Midi Designer Pro instead these days. It is more actively supported and rock stable. Gawd it’s ugly, but it works.

    You can’t go wrong trying TB Midi Stuff though.

  • Thanks, @wim. Thanks again, @recccp. While TB Midi Stuff is not specifically built for Audiobus 3 it says it works with virtual MIDI ports which should be enough for my purposes. Midi Designer Pro seems to do a lot more though it goes deeper than where I need to take it. Thanks!

  • @Howard said:
    Thanks, @wim. Thanks again, @recccp. While TB Midi Stuff is not specifically built for Audiobus 3 it says it works with virtual MIDI ports which should be enough for my purposes. Midi Designer Pro seems to do a lot more though it goes deeper than where I need to take it. Thanks!

    IMO TB Midi Stuff is much more powerful than Midi Designer Pro. I kinda trust Midi Designer Pro more at this point though.

  • yeah MIDI Designer Pro is the best option for ongoing support, active community, continual updates, etc.

    @wim what things are more powerful in TB ?

  • wimwim
    edited November 2018

    Humm ... just from memory

    • Ease of sending multiple midi messages from one control. You can send any combination of cc’s, notes, sysex, etc. easily.
    • Use of variables for doing many different things - hard to explain briefly.
    • Lots more options for appearance of knobs, backgrounds, etc. built in.
    • Ability to use custom backgrounds, knobs, etc.
    • Not butt-ugly.
    • More flexible labeling of controls
    • Easier to show or hide controls and even screens based on interaction with other controls.
    • Screen editor is more flexible
    • The system for switching between different control surfaces you have built is better IMO, but that is just a matter of taste.
    • Very nice keyboard, drum pad, and mixer built-in.

    I’m probably forgetting some things. I’m also probably leaving out things that MDP can do that TB can’t. I honestly haven’t been using either of them very often of late. It’s probably been a couple of years since I used TB Stuff and at least four months since I used MDP.

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