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Please stay and share what you learn. There are a handful of folks that are working this lane: trying to make orchestral "film score" like music. We need to share best practices for IOS. I'm sure there are other Forums for desktop approaches.
There's a guy here called @Kuhl that takes it a step further towards traditional techniques. He writes his original music using Notation apps like "Notion" but also advises that to get the really great quality you need to invest in Desktop tools. He also explained techniques for taking standard MIDI files and assigning instruments to re-create symphonic works. That's a lot of fun and when your done you have an orchestra framework to use for your own work. BS-16i with SF2 Orchestras is a good start in that direction since ideally you don't want to "Freeze to audio" just to hear something. Tradeoffs, tradeoffs, tradeoffs. He also advised buying Notion with it's added sound set to get a quick workflow from Notation to hearing the work.
@richardyot constantly advises us that nothing else can touch Auria Pro with FabFilter's tools for high quality mastering. If FabFilter continues to produce AUv3 versions of those tools that could open the door for other approaches but the features of Auria Pro will probably still be preferred for reasons of MIDI PPQN of 960, bus design and other features. Auria tends to get a bad rap here because the dominant workflow tends to use a lot of new approaches that extend the "recording studio" approach to music... Looping, sample stretching to maintain pitch while tweaking the Beats per Minute of the track, MIDI FX for generative composing, etc. But for that John Williams Masterpiece there are still a lot of benefits in the recording studio approach to assembling music.
Let's learn what we can do to make impressive IOS work too for music students without the budget for a laptop since in a few years tablets will be the standard as good enough for most users.
Desktops and Laptops will only be for Pros that can use them to generate income over time so let's document the best practices now.
McD, shall we start an Orchestral music thread? I’ve tried a few things but haven’t found the holy grail in iPad. I would rather not spend $500 for a nice orchestra library on PC but would like to make some simple Orchestral music on the iPad with sound fonts or other samples, maybe? I could share my know how from what I’ve learned from others about making samples sound more “real” (panning, reverb use, orchestration, etc).
There was a chap on here, Music Inclusive I think who had some good know how. I’ve read and participated in here with him and other back in 2017I think? https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/17252/orchestral-music-on-ipad/p1
He kind of gave up on iSymphonic and others and used notion - he wanted to have all articulations available, something lacking in iOS.
But...Scott Van Zandt makes fantastic orchestra based music on iOS using Gadget and Module. Check out his soundcloud.
If i remember correctly the AU memory limited was lifted with IOS 12.
Perhaps you remember my AU plugin instance test - the iPad Pro could run 77 Pro Q AU instances with IOS 11.4 before the out-of-memory crash happened. After the IOS 12 update it could run up to 112 instances with the same ProQ 7 AU / Auria Pro version.
It seems i did not add my IOS 12 benchmark results to the old thread - probably will do later. just for completeness and tests were already done i september.
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With IOS 11.4 the memory limit was either 300MB or 340MB total, depending on the device. I don‘t have numbers for IOS 12, but from my numbers i suspect 500 MB for the larger devices.
I have read somewhere that it now depends on the main memory, so the 6GBram/1TB disc mega iPad Pro probably has a higher total AU instance limit than 500 MB.
Thanks everyone.
feel reassured about reinstalling Auria should I need to now.
Kuhl sounds like Derek from the iPad musician group, who I think is a big fan of notion and composing that way. I have my own view when it comes to orchestral arrangements (although I would like to write a symphony or something I’m more bothered about arrangements for songs).
The whole reason for my switching to iPad for music was I simply hated recording on pc/Mac etc. it was a chore. Setting up equipment was a chore, using the daws was a chore (I despise logic and all the stuff you have to do just to get started recording), I never felt anything g inspired me to make music, and waiting for a computer to boot etc... I just decided that I’d much rather the always on, instant possibilities and lack of cables connections etc of an iPad. The single weakness, besides power, has been the lack of the big sample libraries and so I’ve ended up going through a lot of east west, spitfire, and other stuff in order to make comparisons. I think there’s a big divide between people who prefer loop based ableton style and people who prefer traditional daw. Most people seem to be the former now. For me, I never liked the ableton thing. It makes a song feel like a drum machine to me. But I like trying different approaches, if anything doing that shows you what you really like.
I think the most important thing in terms of orchestration or at least any kind of synthetic acoustic instrument, is how it is played. I have listened to a lot of east west spitfire etc and if it’s not being played with feeling on the volume slider, or the right articulation, it sounds abysmal. I sometimes think articulations actually hinder this because it can make people lazy thinking they’ve chosen the right articulation for a part and disconnecting from the playing. The best sample in the world then sounds absolutely awful. That was kind of nice because the reverse applies also, which has dramatically improved the sounds possible on iPad for me.
Theres a lot else I could say, but thanks again
it’s been really useful chatting and a great forum and hope to learn a lot more. Personally I think mpe and modelling is the future, if not the right now. It’s been a quantum leap for me.
@McDtracy @wingwizard
I’m working on an original piece now guys. I just haven’t had time to copy down more than about 1,5 minutes of it, but I’ll make a demo soon. This is the first work i started in notion. Usually I have used symphony pro to lay the groundwork. But actually, I’m all Notion now. It’s a fantastic tool.
When it's done it really won't matter how long you took to make it. Keep adding notes and it will end when it's time.
You’re right of course. It’s coming in waves for me. Sometimes I can’t even think out a motif, but then suddenly it’s like something bursts and I’m overwhelmed by music inside. Then I memorise, but lately I’ve been too self critical when I copy down, and change things that i shouldn’t have changed. But time is an important tool. When you go back to something, you have a new look and perhaps new ideas. So time is important.
In the mean time I experiment with all my synth apps, and hope that it also will result in something beautiful
But man... it’s so much to try out. The new Stagelight & NanoStudio2 is where I’m into now. I love both of them, but Cubasis is still my kinda daw. See you around guys!