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Any future for REX files on the horizon?
Stockholm on Gadget does REX, and there are quite a few downsides:
Import files one at a time.
Playing slices limited to short keyboard range or 8 pads at a time.
Ugh... Clunky and tedious.
Now... Groove Rider, BM3, Egoist and the like look like they would be ideal for interacting with REX files, and I think any one of these developers could grab this untapped set of resources and incorporate them.
Of course, I could be mistaken and there is something besides Stockholm out there... Or some secret weapon ready to be released. Please let me be wrong.
But let me know the rumours so I may keep hope alive and ready myself for REXanity!
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Your best hope may be Reason Compact. Perhaps there are some issues with REX being a proprietary file format?
Apple loops, ACID, EXS24, SF2, and SFZ are also formats that attempt to make samples more useful. For a DAW developer to support all of these would seem to be a lot more work and the economics of iOS DAW apps just doesn’t seem to support this sort of app requiring a lot more documentation and maintenance.
If proprietary file formats aren’t an issue, then it might make sense to develop an AU player for REX and/or SFZ as I’m not aware of any currently. Being able to draw upon existing sources for these file types would definitely be a boon to many making music on iOS though I’m not certain if it’d be enough people to make it worthwhile for a developer.
More niche, more work to implement, and how do you continue to fund such an app’s development? Clearly there are solutions for these issues on the desktop/laptop though I believe it might be several more years before they materialize on iOS.
Stockholm is in fact my favourite gadget next to iWavestation and iMono/Poly.
The possibility to import up to 92 samples (or slices) in one file and being able to tweak each sample/slice separately (pitch/pan/level/decay/reverse/cutoff) plus a useful synth section with filter and modulation that can be automated in Gadget is far above what's possible in Bilbao, Abu Dhabi or Vancouver.
It just requires different thinking when creating REX files.
I've done full multisampled instruments with it, and the lossless REX audio compression helps keeping them small.
The only thing you really need is Reason or ReCycle in case you want to create your own REX files.
I'm often appending many samples into one file and set the slice markers, turn the tempo up to the max and adjust the stretch ratio to sound best inside ReCycle, then load the file in Gadget. I also "tag" my rex files starting with three-letter codes so I can easily search them in Gadget's file dialog because Gadget still, and still has no folder support unfortunately.
The propellerheads would do good to announce and release a REX library for iOS so that other developers can start adding that to their apps.
I don't say it's necessarily the holy grail of sliced loop formats because it's proprietary, but Apple Loops and Acid WAV are just as proprietary and I know of no other format that has ooen-source tools available for editing and creating them...
Groove Rider, BM3 and Egoist are apps I love to use as well, but more often in cases when I record audio on the iPad and experiment with them afterwards.
The propellerheads releasing some kind of ReCycle for iOS with recording functionality on board is unlikely, but hey, we never know what's in the queue. I would never have expected something like "Reason Compact" either
I like your positive energy.
Thanks for the advice on Stockholm... Hooking up stuff so that my MPC232 can interact with various apps... Would be nice to have a proper Jungle machine.
The MPD232 should work very well with Gadget!
You can either use Gadget just as a sound source and compose on the MPD, and then enable sending MIDI clock from the MPD over MIDI to Gadget, set Gadget to follow external MIDI clock and record your tracks in sync.
Or compose directly in Gadget and just use the MPD pads and its transport control.
It is amazing. Apps like Sector and BM3 and Groove Rider are awesome with it. Just the REX file thing on Gadget is sooo tedious.