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Easy Learn Synthesizer Piano Studio Synth One rip-off?
Is this a Audiokit Synth One clone/ ripoff sure looks like it in the pictures. In the App Store for £6.99
Easy Synthesizer Piano Studio by M. Mohsin
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More about that in this thread:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/30345/new-app-easy-synthesizer-piano-studio
Feel free to let Apple know. Sometimes they act once they get enough feedback...
@analog_matt Pretty blatant rip-off wasn’t aware that it had been spotted thought I’d get the word round not to buy.
People used to rip off websites (still doing it). Now they are ripping off opensource apps
We need to understand what Free Open Source code means.
AudioKit is an Open Source project.
I think it's important to understand what Open Source code with an MIT License really means. This is not a Rip-Off. It's a "fork" of the App. Of course, getting the free product and the wonderfully enhanced D1 for $8 make a lot more sense but this product uses the AudioKit SynthOne as a starting point for a new app and it's allowed by the MIT License. AudioKit code made be used in commercial products or free ones for that matter that donate their code extensions back to the project.
Hopefully, someone is making AUv3 extensions and putting them into the project for SynthOne, D1 and FM Player (1 and 2) to leverage for out benefit and to helps get all the bugs out of the implementation.
If D1 was totally developed by hand it wouldn't ship until 2022 if ever, IMHO. The code issues solved by starting with AudioKit saves a developer years and avoids the requirements to master sound engines, GUI's and IOS inter-op standards (with AUv3 hopefully getting resolved next year).
I'm not goin to buy it into this product just to see what's been added but it might scratch and itch for someone since it's targeting learning the "piano" keyboard and might be good for that educational use. Many of the "Learn to Play" apps have really bad sound engines and could turn a kid off for ever.
Check out the cost of piano lessons and this might be a reasonable alternative for many. If it is we'll see positive reviews overtime. (We could check now).
It has a cost model I'd never sign up for:
Caveat emptor. Going to Apple to kill the App is probably bad for the freedom of the open source movement in general. Since SynthOne is free it doesn't hurt as competition.
Expect to see more forks of the free code base as AudioKit is intended to be used and to stimulate a cornucopia of innovation.
Along with those that use and contribute more code back to the project there will also be some that leverage the code for commercial projects.
Most of the code we all use daily was developed using Open Source as a business model with the biggest objector historically being MS Windows which has big the biggest threat to the model
in the courts.
The was a comment in the other thread quoting a sample of the rules for devs, put forth by Apple.
It basically says you can’t just copy another app.
Some clarification: Although, the code for Synth One is MIT open-source, Apple does not allow what it deems to be "copycat" apps in the app store. Section 4.1: "Don’t simply copy the latest popular app on the App Store, or make some minor changes to another app’s name or UI and pass it off as your own."
With regards to open-source, the end-product in the App Store belongs to whoever uploaded it first. i.e. If someone else would have uploaded the Synth One code first, they would have first rights to it in the App Store, not AudioKit. Which is why Synth One was closed-source until it was uploaded.
According to Apple's rules, this is not a new app, but, a copycat. I've downloaded that app, and this is what it looks like. It's a non-working copy of Synth One:
Nothing has been added. In fact, things have been REMOVED. It is a scam.
That's why @Jumpercollins is warning people.
Easy Synthesizer Piano Studio has false advertising.
It claims: Audiobus, Ableton Link, and IAA. I bought the full version. It has none of those features.
For the app description: It simply copied the Synth One feature list. And, charges for something it doesn't deliver.
It is a scam and violates Apple's terms. Plain and simple.
There are "Learn to Play" apps that use AudioKit, and we fully support them. This is not an educational app. It's a trick.
The reality is this app will probably be removed. It's only a matter of time. While Apple doesn't seem to care about Analog Synth X, a previous Synth One app like this was removed.
Not only removed, but, the developer's payments were frozen. More gravely, the developer's account was permanently banned and ALL their apps removed from the app store. Apple promotes Synth One pretty heavily (both online and in the real world in retail stores in 7 countries). They don't want copycat apps lowering the user experience. It probably bothers them more than us. If this app added new features and did not cause confusion (like the great Outerbass app that recently came out), or even had a different UI, no one would take issue.
This is not a "competition" app. It's Synth One with the logo ripped out.
I don't have to bring it to Apple's attention. As, I try to keep my karma good. But, I suspect this "developer" is going to face some pretty big consequences. They'll probably lose... Everything.
It might not be a copy but an extension that is used to access Piano lesson materials... just a guess but it's important to understand this is not a violation of the AudioKit license and I'll leave it to Apple to determine of this is a copy that violates their T's and C's. With more effort on the GUI we'd never have flagged it at all and most here would never buy any monthly subscription app. It's probably a solo developer taking a shot at making a living. Not a developer that's likely to show up here but the idea of using AudioKit code to make products is a good one.
JUCE provides something similar with a completely different licensing model.
Good to know. Please accept my apologies for misrepresenting the product as being distinct enough to pass muster with Apple's term. But AudioKit and Open Source licensing allows this type of business scam and assumes the market will not pay for something that is essentially free tho' some will be scammed.
Caveat emptor and let's hope Apple will assist in keeping everyone in line. They usually do... sometimes with extreme measures.
I support people making money off my open-source work, as long as it doesn't harm consumers.
In fact, I made a radio app template a few years ago that is responsible for over 100+ different apps in the app store:
https://github.com/analogcode/Swift-Radio-Pro
But, they all help small and indie-radio stations. So, I am super excited for them all.
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It's ok to use opensource to create derivatives. However, 2 things they did wrongly:
They should have changed the UI so it did not confuse the consumer from trade-dress issues. Users who have seen SynthOne on a demo iPad would stay away from this copycat app.
They should not have used a greedy subscription in addition to the upfront price to trick some extra revenue (maybe with a popup that forces users into buying subscription). The subscription feature alone is going to kill that app and drive it into the ground soon.