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Rozeta LFO limited to 4X rate: feature request
With Audiobus becoming more and more capable and efficient, I like to do my stuff inside it and record everything in Blocswave for example.
Waiting for AB virtual midi port useable with midi learn, Midiflow adapter allows to use Rozeta LFO with that new AB feature to control any parameter, say Noir grit! That’s really interesting to do some fast rhythmic modulation that way.
But Rozeta LFO is limited to 4X rate. Could be really cool to have 8X, 16X and why not 32X rate too.
The nice thing with AB is that it’s lighter on ressources than apeMatrix to work in combo with Blocswave.
Could this be possible? @brambos
Thanks.
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+1000.. Or do what Elektron does and just have another knob/switch for multiples... So if base only goes to 4, then have a multiple control for 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x, 32x, etc...
Nice idea. Also, being able to change rate by midi could be very cool too!! This is something apeMatrix can’t do.
I’d also love to be able to speed up Rozeta’s Lfos. Atm, they’re great for slow sweeps, but not for crazy fast stuffs! 🤪
Didn't Bram say Rosetta was finished being developed - so not sure that will come.
NO! They are far too fast! I need them to go WAYYYYY slower. No, I'm not being sarcastic...
He did say that, but maybe if we ask nicely enough, tweaks of existing features might be possible
Different clock divisions I'd like to see across all the suite + all AU parameters exposed on all of them. There are many times I'm wishing to automate things I can't.
Not exactly LFO and no MOD knob, but we can also do cool things at higher rates with FAC Envolver gate mode and its various knobs.
Little up @brambos
No plans at this point. Rozeta LFO as it is covers the 95% use cases that people typically need.
I also don't want to increase the amount of MIDI traffic between plugins (which would be needed to make super-high speed MIDI LFOs not sound like random changes)
+1. Although maybe I just need to study how to use them better. I tried using them to adjust some Autony parameters, like gate length, and the dial just zooms back and forth, whereas I'd like more of a gentle wave thing. (Possibly off topic but if anyone can advise on this or just point me at a tutorial on Rozeta LFOs, ... thanks! :-) )
When synced 1 cycle is 8 bar long, when running free it's way slower... how slow do you need it to be?
well, i’m guessing something like 2 or 3 minutes per cycle, which is what i would find useful.. does it do this already with sync off ?
even the Lfo’s in apematrix don’t go as slow as some might like.. if you slide all the way down on the speed you can see it stops lowering at a default 1.92 hz .. ?? i wonder if this is an apple restriction?
No, you can make them slower than tectonic plates if you want.. but if you're making a general purpose product it's all about finding common sense sweet spots. Most people don't need imperceptibly slow changes (or would even report them as bugs "the LFO doesn't work and gets stuck!") so it's just eating up knob-range that only one or two people would ever use
Ok thanks for your answer
Now for the 5%, anyone know a workaround which allow to introduce an offset to LFO, the idea being to have two or more LFO instances with some being offset. Perhaps a streambyter set of rules?
Again, Envolver is really nice to do fast midi gate modulation, with resolution up to 1/128, pattern, rise, fall and depth. This advanced FX has lot of cool stuff @FredAntonCorvest
firstly: lets be clear, i am talking about Apematrix assignable LFO’s in the above, I haven’t yet launched Rozeta to see if the requested slllllloooowwwwwnnneeeessss is possible there.
the Apematrix one will go down to 0.016 cps if you take sync off.. ie: a minute per cycle..
so now ( at last ) i am looking at Rozeta LFO when in Apematrix it shows a 0.01hz lowest cycle on the display which would be maybe closer to two minutes ( thats not too bad for me but half that speed would be nicer, on a personal level that is )
secondly: i don’t regard myself as part of the argument , just an interested bystander , nevertheless I raise my fist in salute to those “only one or two people” that would use such mild mannered extremes.. i sometimes find myself press ganged into said duo!
“most people don’t need imperceptibly slow changes” I think they would have a hard time avoiding such in life.. and maybe we all could do with being more aware and embrace that slow trickle of entropy.. theres some great music/sound stuff out there that does exactly that..
any road.. there may be other solutions to the slowslowLfo problem out there in ios.. ( and indeed the audio rate and beyond speedneed expressed ) perhaps that midi script au plugin ? can’t remember its name..
glacial tectonic rhumbas here we come!!
@RockySmalls
Have you tried sync subdivision mult(iplier) setting in apeMatrix? This allow for very slow LFO.
I use ultra slow LFO too, the same way I use subtle slow automations. This adds micro movements and interactions (think about input knob feeding a compressor for example) and brings life to a track. This is a very common mixing technique, doing it via LFO is useful in iOS dawless environment.
the Synced divisions in Apematrix are definitely not slower than the unsynced 1hz..
( as far as i can see ) and that means setting the tempo to 20 bpm ( the lowest it goes )
and Brams LFO definitely beats it for slowness..
but i’m glad you brought this subject up.. it’s an interesting puzzle.. in the early nineties I had to make a turntable that ran at 1rpm for an installation ,, back then it was a hard diy project.. the turntable had to be bolted to a concrete slab to stop vibration feedback.
this reminds me of those days
Yes Rozeta LFO is slower.