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Synclavier ios app! (Now with the right link)

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  • edited January 2019

    I’m not a synthesizer’s expert,but i do really enjoy this app.it has a real thing of its own.truly inpiring.
    No regret about my purchase.

  • @CracklePot said:
    Anybody know what is up with the pricing?
    Full app is $20, but free app with IAPs is $10.
    Full app is iPad only, but does it do more than the fully upgraded Pocket version?

    the iPad version has a significantly larger architecture than the pocket one.
    But the Pocket revealed some nice tricks (with few efforts) that I never experienced on any other synth even with the very limited parameter access of the feebie.
    The user interface looks stupid, but actually is quite smart.
    My main concern was the 'knob' value entry - it has a specific response and with some 'getting used to' it's an efficient tool.
    They'll probably release a new hardware dial, if the app gains enough success.

  • @Telefunky said:

    @CracklePot said:
    Anybody know what is up with the pricing?
    Full app is $20, but free app with IAPs is $10.
    Full app is iPad only, but does it do more than the fully upgraded Pocket version?

    the iPad version has a significantly larger architecture than the pocket one.
    But the Pocket revealed some nice tricks (with few efforts) that I never experienced on any other synth even with the very limited parameter access of the feebie.
    The user interface looks stupid, but actually is quite smart.
    My main concern was the 'knob' value entry - it has a specific response and with some 'getting used to' it's an efficient tool.
    They'll probably release a new hardware dial, if the app gains enough success.

    I think the iPad version is 16 part multitimbral.

  • @Daveypoo Yes, I've had the same pet peeve since keyboards like the M1 and DX7 were new! Of all the limitless possibilities for new sounds afforded by synths why focus on inferior imitations of sounds we already have?!

    I haven't tried this new app yet but sometimes these vintage instruments can be interesting if they fail badly enough at their original purpose with their own character showing through eg, tb303 bass.

  • @1nsomniak said:
    @Daveypoo Yes, I've had the same pet peeve since keyboards like the M1 and DX7 were new! Of all the limitless possibilities for new sounds afforded by synths why focus on inferior imitations of sounds we already have?!

    I haven't tried this new app yet but sometimes these vintage instruments can be interesting if they fail badly enough at their original purpose with their own character showing through eg, tb303 bass.

    Agreed - it's not that, say, the M1 doesn't have good sounds, it's more that the blatant imitations of acoustic guitars (that sound nothing like guitar), flutes, horns, etc. that just sound so cheap. Funny you mention the DX7 - I fell in love with the Fender Rhodes when I was in college, and ended up buying one when I first moved to California. I have a deep love of the Rhodes, and the cheesy-Doogie-Howser-DX7 piano used to make me cringe. I have since grown to love this patch but it is the prime example of what I'm talking about.

    Anyway, thanks @1nsomniak - good to know I'm not the only one that's annoyed by this era of synths. I do feel better ;)

  • Well, for anyone in a band that plays MJ'S "beat it," you now have the intro sound, which they always said was a synclavier preset, so that's cool. I just have the free iPhone version right now, haven't checked it out enough to see if it fits any needs.

  • @Daveypoo I hear you (of course), but some of the sounds have now moved from the bad to sufficiently so to be good. Just not played as they were. I think of Mister Yorke (for a big fat and obvious example, James Blake would also do, there's lots) writing something up his alleyway using the 2-8 Accordion or, better yet, the 3-3 Sweet Potato or even the 8-3 Circus Organ, all with lots of DAW cassette or similar of course...are some beyond any imaginable pale? Yes. Some are. In fact the only thing I don't like about this object is that I can't delete the patches I'd like to, but otherwise, off into another odd lane and quite inspiring for all of that....

    Do very wish it was AU. Ah well.....

  • edited January 2019

    Ok, I just did it once and now can no longer do it again. I'm following the tour page 3 instructions, even using the timbres they suggest, to try to combine 'Hammond FFT' (2 partials, 1 and 2 underlined at the top). I want to add 'Galactic Cymbal' to it, so I tap and hold on 3, it starts blinking, then I tap and hold on 'Galactic Cymbal' from the library. The display shows 'Partial Recalled' but the 3 slot remains blank and non-underlined. And the partial is definitely not added. Any tips?

    I'm leery to proceed any further in case this a bug and I'm wasting my time.

  • Just emailed their support, but they don't seem to be big on answering specific questions based on their language, so hopefully one of you guys can help.

  • @oat_phipps said:
    Ok, I just did it once and now can no longer do it again. I'm following the tour page 3 instructions, even using the timbres they suggest, to try to combine 'Hammond FFT' (2 partials, 1 and 2 underlined at the top). I want to add 'Galactic Cymbal' to it, so I tap and hold on 3, it starts blinking, then I tap and hold on 'Galactic Cymbal' from the library. The display shows 'Partial Recalled' but the 3 slot remains blank and non-underlined. And the partial is definitely not added. Any tips?

    I'm leery to proceed any further in case this a bug and I'm wasting my time.

    @oat_phipps said:
    Ok, I just did it once and now can no longer do it again. I'm following the tour page 3 instructions, even using the timbres they suggest, to try to combine 'Hammond FFT' (2 partials, 1 and 2 underlined at the top). I want to add 'Galactic Cymbal' to it, so I tap and hold on 3, it starts blinking, then I tap and hold on 'Galactic Cymbal' from the library. The display shows 'Partial Recalled' but the 3 slot remains blank and non-underlined. And the partial is definitely not added. Any tips?

    I'm leery to proceed any further in case this a bug and I'm wasting my time.

    Works fine - but be aware, the partial number You want to fill has to be filled in the requested timbre. So You cannot fill the active timbre, partial 5 with a partial 1 from another timbre 😡😤 - my understanding....

  • On the next page (4) of the 'tour' there's a hint under 'copy/paste' that partials can be replaced.

  • @Telefunky said:
    On the next page (4) of the 'tour' there's a hint under 'copy/paste' that partials can be replaced.

    YES - I practiced that too. Copy/paste with the partiales of the active timbre (f.e. from 1-4 to 5-8), than You can import partials from additional timbres...-👍🏽

  • Disappointing quote from the FAQ about AUv3 support:

    "Go! is a multi-timbre instrument already. It has thousands of settings for sound-shaping, with 12 partials and up to 100 frames, so there really no need to have app extension support. Anything you can dream of doing, you can do within Go! without having to change apps."

    Imagine if they wrote the same reason why they wouldn't provide desktop AU/VST support?
    It's this misunderstanding of AU technology and why people want it which I hope will eventually be outgrown.

    :neutral:

  • edited January 2019

    Well, the sound engine is quite demanding and there's a LOT of stuff to be considered (by the developer) if that thing is spread over several instances with individual communication demands (simplified).

    The multi-timbrality is great (as I tried out with Aphelian within just 10 minutes).
    The current mixdown to a single stereo track is a bit limiting, but multi-channel output is much easier to add at some point in time (Audiobus, AUM).
    They already mentioned to add cloud support for preset (timbre) exchange.

    Atm you can run 2 instances by using the iPhone version (Pocket) along with Go.
    Funny sidenote:
    for me the enlarged phone screen (on iPad) is nicer to tweak regarding touch response, except for frequent screen switching. Not shure which method I like more. o:)

  • But as I reiterate :) AU is not just about instancing, it's about having a state saving - syncable plugin (not just Audiobus) for all hosts. It would be fine if they restricted instancing.

    If they have a good Midi program change integration, then that at least, is an alternative workflow. But I can't find any info on that...so maybe it's not there.

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