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What about Impc pro 2 keeps it from being a real contender?

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  • J_BJ_B
    edited April 2020

    @gregsmith said:
    How do people feel about this app now? The bit I don’t understand is the fact that there’s a separate much cheaper iPhone app. What’s the iPad app got that the iPhone app doesn’t?

    They’re both on crazy sale atm.

    If the same company sells a hardware version of the same thing for about a million times the price they have very little reason to have it remotely keep up. Mpc apps are an mpc advert. Fun but there’s a million ways they could be better. One of my first apps the OG version years ago though

  • IMPC pro 2....unstable and needs touch response pads for starters.....and layering of samples..deeper synthesis...
    Don’t use it much after many tries..
    But simple music can be sequenced quickly....
    BM3 does it all....
    IOSSOS

  • Input selection and monitoring is still missing in the sampler it's present in the audio recorder so they know how to do it but apparently it's two different code-chunks that are being used and are not in sync or something.

    I still bump into 'polyphony issues' with longer samples that get cut-off and/or play every two cycles of a pattern, kinda annoying and wtf to be honest... (It makes me check to see if there's events on the time line and yepp, they are there but do not play like WTF).

    I can still crash the sample-editor on a somewhat regular basis using the preview buttons, doesn't happen every time but when you least expect it the app bails out.

    iPhone version seems to be a lot more stable than the iPad version, don't know why...

  • Now that iMPC Pro 2 has had 2 updates 2 weeks ago, can anyone report if it works better now?
    It's a DAW with AUv3 support, Ableton Link and audio tracks, plus it runs on the iPhone.

  • Nope. Just deleted off my phone. Bugs/crashes/can’t sample from iTunes library. List is long.

  • Yeah, it's dire. If you consider the likes of Elektron as being somewhat near the forefront of what is possible with samplers and DAW hardware, all iterations of MPC are unfeasibly far behind, alas. It's a shame as I dearly loved my 2000XL and my friends do amazing things with the 1000 running JJOS.

    The app could be something truly special but it never will be.

  • The lack of 'Keygroup Program' support (ie. layer a bunch of samples and play them chromatically) makes synth sampling quite a pita. Sure the pads can be transposed up using the 16-levels thing (A-D banks) but not down so pitching down samples becomes a major hassle, sure tune knob is there but 16-levels mode can not be used to play AUv3 bass-synths etc. (Ie. play the AUv3 using the pads).

    So many things still missing after all these years makes me a bit sad.
    Akai dropped the free MPC Beats for the desktop and I had hopes they would do the same for iOS/iPadOS but no luck there.

    With the current track record we'll likely see iMPC Pro 3 before all the issues with iMPC Pro 2 are sorted out.
    That was the case already with the initial iMPC and iMPC Pro so I feel we'll see history repeating itself sooner rather than later.

    At least it's got basic Files.app support (no features inside the app, have to use the actual Files.app for file management) so one is not fully locked into using AudioCopy to get samples in/out of the app.

    But still no easy to way to transfer audio from an audio track to the sampler to chop it up, like seriously!
    (this app is a real energy waster for real, just stirs up things that I prefer not to write down).
    Cheers!

  • Let's see what all the 'fun' stuff is within a few days...

  • Random fact: I supplied drum kits for Retronyms' Drum Deranger in Tabletop in 2011.

    https://retronyms.com/feature_xox.html

  • @PeteSasqwax said:
    Random fact: I supplied drum kits for Retronyms' Drum Deranger in Tabletop in 2011.

    https://retronyms.com/feature_xox.html

    Fun Fact: I still really like Tabletop, despite everything :)

  • I've never actually used it :anguished:

    I didn't even have an iPhone until 2016 and it wouldn't run on that.

  • edited November 2020

    AU would be amazing! Running iMPC as an AU I would imagine lightens resources and keeps everything in AUM. It’s a major pain point going in and out of AUM for IAA apps when I am doing a jam session. I do enjoy sampling synths in iMPC more than anything else. It has crashed on me from time to time, same with Beatmaker. I stick NanoStudio for stability. Here is what Retronyms could do to bring me back to iMPC:
    1. Add AU
    2. Constantly work towards making it the most stable app in the App Store (vision statement)
    3. In conjunction with #2, update the app often... addressing bugs and user feedback.

  • @gregsmith said:

    @Sinthemau said:

    @gregsmith said:
    How do people feel about this app now? The bit I don’t understand is the fact that there’s a separate much cheaper iPhone app. What’s the iPad app got that the iPhone app doesn’t?

    They’re both on crazy sale atm.

    Same here...I know from other posts that iPhone version runs OK on iPad too, only a smaller UI but pretty usable.
    I was wondering if is it worth buying (ATM only € 3.49) or it would be only money thrown away...

    Maybe on iPhone only could be useful? Any suggestion, thanks!

    I also wonder if there’s anything that it can do that I can’t already do with eg pulse

    Sampling from the record player is fun in iMPC along with recording samples from synths.

  • @LucidMusicInc said:
    I find the UI of IMPC and Beatmaker 3 to be uninspiring. Flat designs, monochrome and or dark designs are logical but the longer one has to look at them... it's like modern architecture to me, boring and inhumane. I like Cubasis and Gadget for the contrast of colour and curved surfaces, NS2 is flat looking but it's got the colour, Gadget even more so for the unapologetically bold skeuomorphism.

    Also if one has GR-16 there's no real need to look elsewhere for a pad based synth/sampler. Akai should hire @jimpavloff

    Interesting point sir.

  • @dermichl said:
    I once asked their support about importing Midi clips and they asked me what kind of wav file these Midi clips were. That‘s what keeps them from being a real contender... ymmv

    Lmao... developers not musicians?

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