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Lovely. Just beautiful.
@PartOfPayn, I agree. That is a beautiful rendering and shows your skill and aesthetic acumen. Bravo! And thanks.
So, this seems like a great experiment and can be useful in several ways. Any ideas how we might keep this alive? A midi track of the month thread? Any ideas? Or just let it run its course?
@LinearLineman did you see my comment on your dropbox submission?
Many people probably don't share your collection of apps but then I thought we were going to work from MIDI file?
Just getting a chance to work with this. I extracted @LinearLineman 's midi from the Cubasis file.
Here https://www.dropbox.com/s/e80h2os9ozk9tgl/Irresistable5.mid?dl=0
There is something really wrong with the Cubasis midi export. Some note lengths are way off. Anyone else seeing this? Not showing up as it does in Cubasis in other apps.
I think I fixed it. Ran it through Reaper. Replaced link above.
Still one note that is extended in spots. I don't think it was played this way. But I'm not sure.
Gosh, @Multicellular and @Jocphone. Sorry for the difficulties! No, @jocphone, just the one midi track, no particular apps to be used. I just label them when I work on something. If the track is problematic, please don't struggle with it. I can post another or maybe someone else will.
@Jocphone, sorry, I received no messages on DB.
Well I think I largely fixed the file https://www.dropbox.com/s/e80h2os9ozk9tgl/Irresistable5.mid?dl=0
I am also wondering @LinearLineman if it would be best to make a second forum thread JUST with the results of these experiments (Sound Cloud/mp3) and an introduction. That would make it easier for others that may not have the time or interest to participate fully, but might enjoy a listen.
@LinearLineman no problem. It's all sorted now, with thanks to @Multicellular
some of the challenge of this game is how to work with other musicians output and how you have to invent new personal techniques. I have started an attempt at your song on my phone in the car. It sounds great but still plenty to do.
@Multicellular a new thread sounds good. Still, I would like to encourage some others to participate.
Maybe @Jocphone has an idea by calling it a game. “ Play the Midi Game”. Please post your track @Jocphone! At least we can keep the thread in play for awhile. I look forward to your track, but tell me you’re not driving!😬
Ya definitely. Just thinking to keep questions comments here and results there. Just an idea.
Seems that work has gotten the better of me again. Here’s a little snippet because I probably won’t get to surface for another couple of days:
https://soundcloud.com/jocphone/irresistible-urn-snip1/s-oL2v7
Here's a MIDI file with a 4 track loop (drums, bass, pad, 2 light rhythmic keys).
It's BPM 80 but the meter is 12/8 (4 beats of triplets). The polyrhythms are so pronounced it will sound more like 6 bars of 8/8 or 4/4. I choose 4 bars so it could be looped and potentially transposed for the pitched tracks. Scale wise it is in C minor/dorian.
To hear what the original instruments sound like for me I uploaded 1 loop to SoundCloud.
See if you can hear it as triplets rather than pulsing 8ths (3 to the beat versus 2 to the beat).
https://soundcloud.com/user-403688328/midi-layers
I pushed the polyrhythms so hard I have trouble hearing the original metronome reference.
Interesting @Jocphone. What is that strange moaning undercurrent?
brief @McD, will give it a try.
Make multiple copies of the 4 bar 12/8 phrases (or treat them as 6 bars of 8/8) and apply transpositions to segments of them to create chord progressions. You will then have a musical base to improvise over.
Ok, here is @McD’s midi layer of five tracks turned into twenty from Cubasis’ Micrologue and Microsonic with lead lines from iSymphonic and Beathawk.
https://soundcloud.com/michael-levy-387395070/ring-of-desire
Very nice creation: exotic... loaded with middle eastern musical references. The drums are like jack hammers. This type of composition gets used a lot in movies and TV with middle east locales.
You went with the 8/8 emphasis of the drum pattern. I'll admit it would be really hard not to unless you mute the drums and turn on the metronome really loud to use the original 12/8 reference.
Something happened/..
https://soundcloud.com/jocphone/mucky-deed/s-mNQm2
Well, if that is my track @jocphone, you outdid yourself. It sounds like a snapshot of my mind. A little more info on what you did?
Ah no, sorry @LinearLineman , that is @McD 's track. All done in SunVox by wiring up things that probably should be kept apart.
Yours is a bigger project and is going to take me a bit longer I'm afraid.
Awesome. I was hoping someone would make something like this. SunVox is so powerful and starting with MIDI probably reduces the "tracker" complaints. If you really want to blow some minds do one of these SunVox gems on your iPhone on a bus and record it on a Windows Surface Tablet.
Hearing my original baseline converted to "bells" and actually made the hummable melody in your project made me laugh out loud. The rest melds into an industrial MIDI factory processing re-cycled glass and metal.
Very cool demonstration of SunVox's capabilities for sound design in the post-industrial age.
Here's a longer MIDI file to build with:
Track #8 is a very busy solo line that you might want to mute if you want to jam over the rhythm track. Here's what my original sounds like in Cubasis.
For anyone that likes Cubasis here's the project. I didn't use any IAP's or external App.
Here's an Ambient style MIDI started file - 16 bar patterned in D minor:
Here's what the original sounds like:
And the Cubasis Project File:
Haha @jocphone. Makes a lot more sense now!
Brilliant concept! Make a sh!tsong then blame someone else's midi ;) Here's mine...
https://soundcloud.com/user-899971713-294478566/mellodurga
A mellow take on @Multicellular Durga made in Garageband to keep things simple.
@LinearLineman loving your vibe!
@Jocphone totally cool aggressive sound!
@PartOfPayn nailed it!
@McD thanks for the inspiration!
Just the ticket for my first listen this morning as the sun fails to rise and the mist gets a slightly lighter shade of grey. Thanks @onkey wish I had some of your restraint.
Thanks @Jocphone hope the mist has cleared and you're having a bright day. How are you getting those gnarly synth sounds?
@onkey, a great interpretation. My favorite so far.
Glad to see you here and I think you hit the nail on the head. One aspect of the “Why I can’t complete tracks” challenge may be the judgement that the initial material is not good enough. For me I have experienced again and again the understanding that I can start with something less than perfect and make it a lot better with the process. So, using another’s idea, that step is skipped. There is the opportunity to not worry about the foundation material and build something worthwhile. Then folks with this obstacle may see it is not necessary to be perfect from the beginning. For me perfection is not necessary at all, but that is another story!
@McD, mighty good material. I look forward to fucking them up.
All in the SunVox, layers of oscillators, distortion, modulation and plenty of suck it and see.
Loving this thread. Will take a dive on your inputs and the various creations later. And give it a try on some of your midi! 😂
Welcome @senhorlampada! Hopefully some of your Drambo crowd gathering magic will rub off here. Look forward to what you come up with!