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Newbie with no guitar sound on output
So, just installed Audiobus a couple days ago and it worked... Once.
I am on iOS 7.0.4 and using an Apogee Jam for my guitar input. In Audiobus I have selected Jam Tracks as my input and either Ampkit+ or JamUp as the output. In either case I here the input playing and get a green light on the Apogee Jam, but no guitar sound. The Apogee does show signal from the guitar and bounces to orange when I play, it also works when one of the amps is running external to Audiobus. I have closes all apps and restarted the iPad, but no luck. Any ideas to try? Thanks
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Are the arrows connecting 'input>>effects>>output' flashing? It sounds like something isnt loaded in the chain.....
So, I have Jamup and Ampkit AND an Apogee Jam...but I don't have Jam Tracks. I didn't even know what it was, so I searched on it in the app store and I like it. I think I'll give it a try. Once I sort out the connection sequence you're asking about I'll post here again (if someone else hasn't already answered).
Yes, the arrows do flash and all looks fully connected. I also can navigate to the output (amp) and control the start/stop of the input, etc. just no sound from from the Guitar making it out the amp.
So...out of audiobus, you can get audio out of the Jam no problem, right? As in just straight into Jamup. Correct?
I'm not getting any guitar when plugging straight into JamTracks. I'm going to do a hard restart and see if it resolved the issue, but right now I'm getting no guitar at all into JamTracks, forget about Audiobus
OK, so I just can't get any sound at all into JamTracks, which seems like it renders the app pretty useless for me right now. I've had loads of success running JamUp as the input into other apps fwiw (not much I'd imagine if you're set on JamTracks).
As a test of your setup I just plugged in each app individually, starting with what I already knew worked. I plugged in the Jam. Opened up JamUp, and there was green light and tone through the headphones. I closed (double tap home and then swipe up on JamUp) JamUp and then started JamTracks. Blue light on the Jam (as in "this app isn't monitoring your jam") this time and no sound at all into JamTracks.
No point bringing Audiobus into the test at that point, obviously.
Here's another interesting point. I thought that maybe when I launched JamTracks the first time I might have missed the little dialogue from Apple saying that an app wants to access your microphone (a standard popup you'll see in any guitar modeler as it's using your input signal - which iOS considers microphone). So I dug around in settings to make sure it was checked to ON for this JamTracks app. There is no JamTracks listed there at all. I see JamUp and Bias and BM2 and Auria and Audiobus, etc etc etc, but no JamTracks.
So that says to me that it doesn't even think it's supposed to be processing guitar at all. And that would make this app a real mystery to me. I think something is rotten in Denmark so I'm going to try the old uninstall and reinstall and reboot trick.
@GuitarFrank if I understand your set up you are using the Apogee (with the signal light responding) and then you have JamTracks (Input slot)>>Ampkit+ (Output slot), but what is in the Effects slot?
Is there anyone out there that can confirm that sound even comes into JamTracks? I have rebooted, uninstalled, all the usual tricks, and I can't ever get it to accept any input at all. That would make it pretty useless to Audiobus imo so I assume something just isn't right with my installation. Though I will also say that nothing on the app description is leading me to defintely believe it accepts input. There is even copy paste in the app, but when you hit that it doesn't as what you want to copy and just pulls up a dialogue. When you preview it you can tell its only the backing track being copied. Someone tell me I have a bad install here... or I really really don't understand why JamTracks bothered with AB at all.
This is working right now....
iPad 4, iOS 6, Apogee Jam
@SpookyZoo, you mean with JamTracks? What the tits am I doing wrong over and over...
Oh, I get it @SpookyZoo. When I saw your post the first time I didn't get the image (on my iphone). Now I can see that you've also got Jamup in the input slot, which I would expect to work of course. But the OP said he was going from JamTracks in input to Jamup or Amkit in OUTPUT and it wasn't working for him. My own investigation from there tells me you can't do this at all because JamTracks doesn't accept an input. Totally confirmed your setup just now and I personally think that's the only way you're going to be able to play over JamTracks via Apogee Jam (without copying the backing track out anyway).
Yeah, I figured it might only work like this, because as you mentioned Jam Tracks doesn't receive audio.
Nice work @SpookyZoo. I'm clocking out now.
@SpookyZoo, got it! Being new to AB I didn't think that was how it was intended to work. I thought Jam Tracks was an input targeted toward JamUp which can work as an input, effect or output. I had tried to put Jam Tracks in input, JamUp in effects and speaker as an output. That doesn't work either... But I'm happy! Thanks for getting me on the right track.
@boone51, thanks for jumping in and helping as well. Jam Tracks is one of my favorite apps. Before I got the Apogee Jam I would plug the iPad into my Roland Cube and use it to practice scales, etc. My wife will be happy now that I can use it on the iPad with no external amplification!
Thanks again to all.
@GuitarFrank, JamTracks has kind of a quirky integration with audiobus (since it's not really an input and sort of piggy backs on Audiobus to get a feature it should have natively IMO), but I like it, and I've just spent the last few hours torturing my poor little fingers with it. Thanks back.