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What do you guys think the best audio editing app is? Looking for fast work flow.
Trying to decide whether to keep using Cubasis 2, or revert to using desktop software to cut/edit tracks out of random 20-30 min wav files. I love cubasis, but for one, even if you set bar quantize to off, depending on when the track starts sometimes its impossible to chop a segment off of a larger file and bars to line up w metronome, some of you probably know what I mean. Or maybe theres a way around that? Either way, it just feels like a slow process when I compare to something like Edison in FL Studio or something similar.
Most of my recordings are basically random loooong synth tracks/mixes, so to put tracks together into something more like a standard song structure requires chopping 3 min from here and there.
So, if there's a faster way to accomplish this in ios, I would like to try it. Main concern is being able to cut a sample to where it lines up w bar, not that "stepped" selector crap that cubasis has.
I know I can edit the sample in audioshare/audiocopy and chop off exactly how much I want, then export, but I'd like to avoid using 10 apps to accomplish this. At moment, I have to basically record into aum (if I want midi control, since cubasis refuses to allow it for the mixer and such) then copy to audioshare and cut out what I want, then move to Cubasis. I'm assuming that doing this for each track is making 3 copies of the wav files also, its so annnoying spending an hour going through all 3 (or more, depending on what I'm doing) apps and deleting redundant files.
Anyways, maybe I'm an idiot and theres a much better way to do this in iOS, if so, slap me and tell me a better way. I would really like to be able to do this without using desktop...
Thought about buying audiolayer, but then I'm still stuck copying files all over the place.
Also, hows NanoStudio 2 compare to Cubasis 2?
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Audio Evolution hands down. The ability to display or snap to a beat/measure grid as well as the overall interface for touch is amazing.
Even the free version blows away any paid app I’ve tried for basic audio file editing.
Getting audio into it is a bit finicky though because they built their own file management that doesn’t always play nice with open in...
Just use files app to copy audio you want to edit into the AE iOS folder and it’s fine.
Cool cool, I’ll give it a try in a few. I could just learn to remember to use a countdown so recordings always start on a bar, I just kind of hit record and jam for undetermined amount of time, starting/stopping multiple places throughout, hence the struggle of cutting and trying to align to grids...
If the track recording features in this fit my needs, I won’t have to worry about importing audio in most cases, so if import is clunky/buggy it won’t matter much in my case. Cool it has midi and non linear grid editing, Cubasis should take notes, great app, I get that they wanted to make it work great as “touchscreen only” interface, but it would take Steinberg 3 whole min to assign midi ccs to everything and add midi learn.
That's because Cubasis uses PPQN just 48. It means, with quantistiom disabled, smallest unit which can divide one beat is 1/48. Or in other words internally one beat in Cubasis is quantised to 48 parts and nothing smaller is possible..
As mentioned AEM, or also Auria, allows lot lot higher precision. Also BM3.
Right, desktop will always be faster, but the new apple pencil is helpful as a semi mouse replacement for faster, more precise control, plus having quite a few midi controllers controlling everything I can helps A LOT So many apps are great and have their own unique features, which is awesome, but there just isn’t a super quick/intuitive app for recording external audio, having track edit ability, full midi learn, audio units w bypass switches via midi, and a mixer w solo and mute. Audiobus 3, AUM, and Cubasis 2 are all amazing but you need all 3 in my case to get all of these features.
I am in your boat for sure. I hope NS2 audio tracks nails this for me. Not too thrilled with anything on iOS either.
If you have Auria Pro, the editing in there is unintuitive, but super powerful. Nothing like Edison, but I’ve never had any problem doing what I need to with it.
I wish so much Twisted Wave had bar/beat ruler/grid/snap. It’d be my go-to. I would pay big bucks for Edison on iOS. Not gonna happen though.
Yeh, overall it seems like having a quick and routine way of shipping files back and forth to the PC for editing is by far the best way to go. It seems like a major hassle, but apps like AudioShare, File Browser, Documents, and Dropbox it really isn’t that bad. I’ve been using Dropbox. Drop something in there and in seconds it’s available everywhere.
Audio Evolution could almost be close maybe sort of one day but that crossfading needs to be real time like Cubasis. The current destructive cutting with a new clip is crippling.
+1 for Audio Evolution. Whenever I need to edit long tracks, audio or MIDI, it usually works best.
Klevgrand or somebody should come out with an intuitive iOS sample editing/slicing app me thinks
Or an extra IAP for advanced AudioShare file editor would be sweet
NS2 audiotracks... NS2 audiotracks...
Wow. That looks quite nice. Would also be interested to hear other people's take on it in practice.
I generally use Twisted Wave but I can't say I like it. Too easy to lose a selection and zooming always feels clunky.
Been meaning to try Ferrite but haven't given it a real go yet. https://www.wooji-juice.com/products/ferrite/
Woah! I don’t think EZAudioCut had the videos when I first saw it listed. First impression, for cutting and levels etc on a clip that looks damn sweet...
Well the Lite version of EZAudioCut is certainly good at what it does in terms of simple slicing, moving clips etc but it seems to be geared towards podcasters I think. The minimum clip length is rather odd/baffling.
Twisted Wave
TwistedWave Audio Editor by TwistedWave Software Ltd.
No tempo / beat awareness. Not good for trimming clips where that’s important.
I forgot about the Caustic editor. It is really good, and does have beat grid snap.
It's the most touch responsive editor (in the sense of well balanced reaction) and great to cut/arrange clips, but it lacks beat display and grid snapping.
Doesn't loop either, which can partly be compensated by manually trigger rewind (which jumps back to the previous boundary or marker)
Youch. I don't mind the snapping bit but no looping would prolly kill me. Thanks for the heads up. Still for trimming down long jams, or doing basic sound collaging, it might be the right tool. I always like Hokusai but getting files in and out as well as some weird-to-me selection warbles kept me from going back very often.
^ +1 Hokusai takes some getting used to and I’m still trying!
How about beatmaker3? It's still my most favorite app when it comes to audio editing. Not sure about very big files though, but I get used to a workflow where I keep the original recording in the first pad, copy to another, trim, and work with a chunk of the original, export, then again copy the original, paste to another pad and continue wirh different chunk. It's great to have original and "history" of all edits in separate pads, you can always save it as a project or a bank for later use.
TwistedWave Audio Editor by TwistedWave Software Ltd.> @wim said:
Make a perfect loop in Twisted wave, import it into Cubasis, use the time stretch tool to adjust it to whatever measure, done.
Yuck. Audio degradation from time stretching.
[edit] Sorry ... that sounded dismissive and a bit rude. What I meant is I prefer to avoid audio stretching when possible as I don’t like the artifacts it introduces. But that’s just me. That method is probably great for many people. Good suggestion.
GarageBand allows for precise move/split/edition when zoomed at max.