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Looking for simple, basic, STABLE way to add visualization to music for YouTube...
I really need something that can do music visualization and record it to video on the iPad.
I've tried everything I can find and nothing works consistently or very well.
- WZBL sucks ass. Crashes all the time, take FOREVER to render it's output, UI is crap, etc.
- STAELLA is cool, but it's a royal pain in the ass to use iPad's screen recorder, it's not in stereo so you need to combine audio & video, etc. etc. etc.
I can't believe no one has just F'ing ported Winamp/MilkDrop viz to iPad...
There's a few viz tools, but none record the video!
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There is...
projectM Music Visualizer and Media Player by Sperl Heavy Industries
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/projectm-music-visualizer-and-media-player/id530922227?mt=8
No screen recorder, and not updated for 3 years.
I am personally avoiding it.
But, hey....
Milk Drop.
STAELLA has a built in screen recorder IAP ($5).
I haven’t tried it yet.
Is this the one you say is a pain to use?
Or the regular iOS screen recorder?
@MonkeyDrummer I have wondered the same thing. Not sure what @jakoB_haQ uses for his. do you have a macbook? You can do some cleaver music stuff with Motion 5.
I agree someone should port winamp or something.
Maybe @analog_matt or someone could write up a visualization app using audiokit?
Appologies if this isn’t what you are looking for.... (see what i did there?😄)
But if you like fractals at all, Frax HD is awesome. It doesn’t have tempo sync, but you can record within the app. Go down the rabbit hole!
Yea, I've played with it and that's prob. what I'll end up doing to have something, but it's still a pain in the ass to have to render that, then bring it into an editing app, add audio, etc. etc.
Hmm.. Just looked and you're right. They must have added screen recording because when I first got it, I don't think it was there, even as an IAP.
I hear ya. The first dev to make a cool and flexible AU3 visualizer will probably have a big seller on their hands.
Perhaps Wizibel by Klevgrand? Don’t have it .... yet. Looks cool tho. Doug’s in-depth review:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MjWqrW5PSBE
Edit: oh wait, is that what you said you already tried (WZBL) in the OP? whoops... nevermind... 😝
@MonkeyDrummer
We discuss this routinely on our 86BiTz Twitch Show on Friday nights. You should check it out sometime it’s on the www.Twitch.tv/Tremendm_Labs.com channel.
We will be live tonight.
You could try the HYPERSPECTIV APP to create visuals using the camera while you record or you can bring the video into the app for manipulation.
MATRIXVR is an app for creating audio reactive visuals, as well as SOUNDCOLOUR & SPECTRUM, & apps by their developer.
ALCHEMISTROSE APP is a fun audio visualizer but takes some touching to aid with the visuals.
ARAVE APP creates audio reactive visuals in an augmented Reality format!
GLITCHVIDEO APP is great for adding glitch related visuals to live video and recordings and it has a preset that’s audio reactive while engaged.
GENERATE is a trippy camera filter app that’s audio reactive.
MOONSHADOW APP is a psychedelic chroma-key type visualizer app that will manipulate the camera or recorded video.
FILTIST APP & the MEGAPHOTO APP are great trippy camera filter apps that will process video.
Something from Critter & Guitari would be some hardware options for you.
Perhaps the ETC. it is designed to be audio reactive and make the trouble of visuals easier for performing musicians. You could use this in conjunction with a projector to create visuals in the background of your video while recording.
If your not into their hardware you can download their visualizer software for free on their GitHub and run it on a Pi or simply on you own computer.
(Warning speculation)
Perhaps with the right dongle / hub you could use an ELGATO CAM LINK with an iPad and run visuals from an ETC or LAPTOP over HDMI into the iPad as a camera source and utilize that source in a scene switching app (SWITCHER) while you record you video?
Maybe something in this list could help? I’ve dug deep in the App Store for our videos and projects and these are some of the interesting options I’ve found.
@Dr_M
Thanks for the extensive list of apps! 👍 Sounds like you have put them all through their paces, and they passed the test. Will try out those I haven’t already. Also, probably obvious.... but LumaFusion has interesting video effects.
I've been using beatsyncmaker to spice up my screen recordings. Super simple to use. You can also import your own video clips. Here an example of how it beat syncs video clips with an AUM screen recording. Plus everything mentioned in this thread combined with luma fusion can do the job.
After ios 11 Milkdrop can't access iTunes so no music but visually it looks cool.
Holy craparoni! That's a lot to digest!
I really appreciate the effort you put into that post. It mostly seems to go pretty wildly astray from my goal of "simple" though.
I don't know why I've seemed to have developed a curse with regards to video.. especially since I really got into computers BECAUSE of video and 3D graphics back in the early 90's. I'm obviously doing something wrong because I seem to have a harder time wresting with various video tools than I did when you literally had to solder shit together!
I'm old...
Just to make sure I'm following you (because when it came out, I got that BeatSyncMaker but was disappointed as it seemed kinda lame out of the box)...
That's gotta take longer than making the actual music did... Doesn't it?
Thanks for the tip! Gotta try it. It’s by Roland too. So it’s got that warm analogy digital circuit-modeled vibe. 😄. But seriously though, very creative and catchy video and song. Well done. If they make (the much needed) Koyaanisqatsi: 2020, you might get a call.
1. Yes, it has to encode the imported videos again.
2. No, I used Quicktime to record the screen capture and the audio is recorded in stereo.
3. Yes if you wanted to I did not bother with that.
4. No did everything in beatsync then exported to youtube.
I used some of their clips and some I created using other apps.
Used Quicktime to record? How'd you do that?
Using this method you can record in stereo and you can record multiple apps in AU Host apps neither if which can be done with the ios screen recorder to my knowledge.
I bought Staella a while ago and forgot about it. Does anyone know if the IAP screen recorder will record the visuals exclusively or just everything on the screen? It's fun to tweak the settings to the track. It would be good if that was recordable.
I've just lost like 4 hours of my life with that thing. It's f'ing awesome!
FYI: It just records the rendered graphics.
I've tried it before and was like "meh..."
But... Get pro. The extra FX tweaks you get make it make a hell of a lot more sense.
Still not thrilled with some of it like the file management method, it crashes on really long audio files, there's no progress bar for the audio playing so you never know where you are in a song, but overall Staella is exactly what I was looking for when I opened this thread.
Thanks AudioBus forum!
Ahhh. I get what you're doing... I was like "wait... i don't have Quicktime on my ipad! where the hell did he get Quicktime on his iPad!!!??"
I assume you're on a Mac?
TouchViz for rhythmic post-processing of video snippets and FX.
K Machine video synth for synthesizing video based on imported audio, lots of parameters.
Both can export video.
I do have an ancient Mac.
Great thread! Props to MonkeyDrummer for starting the conversation. Going to be spending a long time checking all these apps out.
@BroCoast The STAELLA IAP only records the rendered video, so you can tweak the settings while you record and have fun with it. For example...
Do you know any good resources for learning more about TouchViz? I have it, open it up once in a while, but can’t seem to get anything good going on with it. I usually just poke around, trying to figure it out. But maybe I need to watch some basic usage tutorials or something.
No, sorry, I was just toying around with it when its price dropped, for pure curiosity because I'm not a video artist.
Cool. Keep us posted if you have some ‘A-ha!’ moments.
Hi kids...
So, to kinda close out the thread I started, I wanted to share the completion of my little workflow experiment...
I posted about it here: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/31702/more-of-a-technical-achievement-that-an-artistic-one
But a link to the YT playlist is here:
I'm really glad this thread prompted me to look into Staella again... for the kind of stuff I play (and yes, before you ask, it is actually supposed to sound like that, and yes, it's actually intentional. ) because I really found last night as I was doing the viz for the music that the viz really complemented the music. It reacts very well to how I play.
I just wish I could figure out how to get the video on YouTube to look as good as the video on the iPad! The compression artifacts and lack of contrast are horrible... I've seen other people's vids that are sharp as a tack... No idea WTF I'm doing wrong...
@MonkeyDrummer
👍 Wow, good stuff! The visuals complement the audio without distracting. Powerful drums. Modern yet “tribal”. Perfectly played, Primate Percussionist!