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I could use a step by step for getting 3rd party app working for "rhythm" in Quantiloop
I just installed Quantiloop and set both Easybeats and Cubasis LE for the rhythm part (1 at a time of course), but those do not start/stop in sync with QL. If I go to either of those apps, start the audio and then minimize, I get a loud audio buzzing until I go back and stop it. There are several settings for sync etc. and I have tried different things but nothing is working the way I expect. There are too many variables at play and I am getting frustrated with what should be fairly easy.
What I expect (whether it's reasonable or not) is that I could have a sequence ready to go in one of those apps and it would turn on and off in some relationship to what I'm doing in QL. It's not clear if I need to change some setting in the other app - so I have not attempted to do so.
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Start up Quantiloop, push the edit button under RHYTHM (top right) and choose Type -> Instrument plugin and choose your IAA or AU drum app (it must be one of these). After that your drum app will play when you push the Rhythm button (on the toolbar in the middle) and/or stop/start when using Stop/Start or Record, etc.
I don’t know about Easybeats, but Cubasis is hard enough to control from another app. It may not be possible with Cubasis LE.
Thanks for the tip... but it doesn't work. I do see either
HUSOFT:EASYBEATS or
CUBASIS LE
on the second line of the top window, but nothing audible happens when I press "rhythm". I do see the blue boxes going by counting out beats, but hear nothing.
I don't have my heart set on Easybeats or Cubasis, but before I drop $ on something else I'd like to get a feeling that it will actually work. Is there a free or < $5 rhythm/drum machine app that is known to work?
@Digital_Larry Hey, just did a few quick tests. Seems without link, which I find adds more issues sometimes, RockDM, SoftDrummer, DrumJam all work pretty well with Quantiloop.
DrumJam, works great, syncs perfectly and adjust to rhythm changes. Rock DM and soft drummer do not.
The other 2 mentioned do work well if you enable ableton link. Which is nice since both Quantiloop and softdrummer rockDM both respond to the new ableton link start/stop.
-> $5 <- Modrum
Still works great after all these years
And super light and fast.
FunkBox and ElasticDrums work
The Elliot Grarage apps don’t seem to.
I couldn’t get MV08 to work.
That’s all I can test until I get to my iPad.
Thanks a ton for the responses! That's the best turnout I had for a serious issue in a really long time.
I tried Funkbox which is mentioned on the Quantiloop FAQ. It does not show up in the list of Instrument Plugins I can use. Cubasis LE and Easybeats are shown along with multiple entries for Rhythm Necklace. None of these work. If I tap on the "RTHM" icon in the center bottom panel, I get a green button and warning telling me about how to reload the plugin but none of this changes anything.
Funkbox is shown as an option in Tempo/Clock Sync/Sync To, but again I'm not able to get any audio out of it from Quantiloop whether this is set to "Funkbox" or "None".
I tried turning on "Ableton Link" at which point it went off to look for compatible apps, but after about 5 minutes nothing was found (spinner still going around), so I canceled that.
@Digital_Larry Funkbox shows up for me. Are you sure you selected Rhythm > Instrument Plugin > App Tab > Funkbox (Midi)?
I think maybe you’re looking in the wrong place to set up the rhythm. You do this through the Rhythm button, not the Tempo button.
Add DM1 and DM2 to the list of apps that work. Go to the Song page in either and, under IAA, disable Notes and enable Tempo.
OK Funkbox didn't show up UNTIL I deleted the "Rhythm Necklace" app (which had 7 entries in the list).
Moving forward...
Got Funkbox working by selecting "Funkbox", not "Funkbox (MIDI)", and under "Tempo", Sync to: None.
Update - lots of variables. I used Funkbox (MIDI) and that seems to work as well. However I also heard what sounds like a piano patch playing the drum part... and I have no idea which app is doing that. I turned MIDI OFF in Funkbox and that stopped.
Then I turned QL rhythm volume to 0 and I still hear Funkbox. If I turn FB volume down, then I don't hear it. That seems a little odd. I general I'll agree that if I selected FB I want to hear FB, but it doesn't seem possible to turn it down through QL alone. Also, I am using Ableton Sync on both apps.
Thanks everyone!!!
If it’s acting the way you say then I’m pretty certain you’re not loading FunkBox into Quantiloop the way I said. If you load it from the Rhythm button, it should respond to the Quantiloop volume control. It does for me:
@wim I really appreciate the effort you're putting in to help me. All is as you say other than I can still hear Funkbox thru the speakers when QL's rhythm volume is all the way down. I'm not using an external audio interface at the moment. To be clear, the QL rhythm volume does change the level but Funkbox doesn't go all the way off, as though it were getting mixed in parallel.
Huh. Well, I’m outta ideas. Volume goes to zero when I turn the Rhythm volume down here.
Do you happen to have recorded by accident Funkbox into QL?
Just troubleshooting not insulting
Yeah, hey thanks everyone, my Behringer UMC404 just arrived today and it seems to work OK there. Rhythm volume turns all the way down now. I have not used the iPad for any audio stuff until just recently and have to admit it is a little baffling. I'm hoping I can get a setup with QL that is just simple for starters. I'm coming from using a Digitech Jamman Stereo.
Of course nothing is perfect - the pedal works instantly and doesn't have all these options but on the other hand it's got its limitations and getting the loops into my DAW was ridiculous.
Thanks again for the help! You rock!!!!!
I am in the same boat as the original post. I can get the rhythm to play but not record into the loop. As an input the RDM is greyed out. I have researched what I am missing to to no avail for a few days now. I have reached out to support on QL just havent heard back yet and Lumbeats doesn't seem to have a contact on their website, so any help would be much appreciated.
@50Pesos If you want to record your rhythm app, don't load it as rhythm, just put it in one of the input slots. The rhythm slot is for playing along (that's how I use it anyway).
If you put your rhythm/drum app on an input slot it should still start and stop with Quantiloop if you use Ableton Link.
I am trying that but it is greyed out. What will make it available.
I am just beginning with apps for music. Quantiloop and Rock drum machine are the only two I have so far. Once I can get these two act well together I’ll be adding blueboard and an irig. Is Audiobus required for QL and RDM?
That did it, thank you so much!!
@50pesos Glad you got it sorted. As you've discovered you don't need Audiobus for QL and RDM. Where I've found it occasionally useful though is for a second device running AB remote, QL can be controlled really nicely from there if hosted in Audiobus on your primary device. Bluetooth foot control is great for QL, highly recommended.
I use Funk Drummer mostly in the rhythm slot with QL, but as an alternative Drumjam is worth a go if you want to play live percussion. It works differently from the Lumbeats apps in that you can have it both in the rhythm slot playing a drum loop and then have the pads output separately to a QL input slot for live looping.
Thank you, I will check it out. I did search around for apps before pulling the trigger, the hard part is matching how you're are going to use the app to the glowing review. It's little details like this that get over looked. Thank you again for solving three days fustration.
Is there an app that will listen to the chords and throw a bassline in? kinda like the trio plus pedal did.
@_ki Mozaic script https://patchstorage.com/smart-chord-bass/
Not a direct answer, though that Mozaic script looks interesting, but have a look at iBassist as a bass accompaniment. It doesn’t track chord changes, but does lock in with Lumbeats drum apps.
Also, as you’re in Quantiloop, I record a guitar loop and then use a foot switch to enable the built in ‘transpose’ effect for a bass line (targeted at just one of QL’s tracks). If you have the effect on when you play the latency is no good, but kicking it in after recording is a pleasure in itself.
Generally I would think any chord recognition app is going to involve a degree of delay, so probably not great for live looping. With something like XMURE you have to learn to change chord (on a guitar) slightly ahead of time for the backing instruments to keep up.