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Juno Type Chorus or Similar ios?
Hey all.
Are there any Juno or TAL like chorus ios apps? I done some searching but from the chorus apps I've heard none really come close to the free TAL chorus vst. What are your go to chorus apps for a Juno like sound?
Thanks
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FAC Chorus?
Fac for sure. It even has presets for type I and II that are really close.
Wow. How did I miss that one? From the limited demos I've heard it sounds very convincing. Thanks for the suggestion.
FAC is hands down the best chorus available on iOS, by far. And it definitely can get that Juno vibe.
May I ask here what iOS synths you find close to the original Juno?
Ask for an opinion here and get a hundred different answers!
My vote goes with VirSyn AudioEffx but stay away if you're a preset jocky. Whilst AudioFffx has a few presets they're only of the multi-fx variety. But the chorus effect itself beats some of my VST favorites, never mind those on iOS.
Interestingly enough, there is not a very close substitute that I have found on iOS. Zeeon can approximate the pads and brass very well with some FAC Chorus thrown on it (it's built-in chorus is quite good as well, but the FAC better captures the Juno vibe) and with some eq'ing, but by itself it is not as warm-sounding as a Juno and has a more brittle quality to it. That is my recommendation, though, given Zeeon is pretty much universally acknowledged (Audiobus forum's majority opinion, that is) as the highest quality-sounding synth on iOS that is not made by Moog.
P.S. Don't be fooled by Epic Synth. It's the only one I know of that directly tries to recreate a Juno as well as stealing the look of it, but it's severely lacking in quality.
The synth engine in the Junos is really pretty simple - single osc (albeit with a sub option), single envelope, really to me it was the quality chorus sound that really made it what it was.
On a semi-related note, this upcoming TC Electronics pedal is very tempting.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/June60--tc-electronic-june-60-vintage-analog-chorus-pedal
I pre-ordered one of these back in February, but it has yet to arrive. I'll let you know what I think when it gets here.
I had a Juno 6 back in the early 80s, the filter was quite identifiable too.
DLYM from Portugal is a great sounding free chorus and flanger AUv3.
It even has a "Dimension D" mode if that rings a bell, with adjustable hpf cutoff frequency, manual delay time and feedback adjustment etc, and it doesn't sound muddy at all.
Can be used as a flanger as well, and it has the important sine/triangle LFO switch too.
Please do! I watched the Sweetwater video with 'that guy' (you know what I mean if you use the site & watch the videos...their synth guy is so much better it's not even funny) but still hesitant to drop even $50 for such a simple pedal (though it looks real cool).
This is an excellent free effect that gets overlooked. It's from the DRC guys, so you know it's good. Only problem is it doesn't recall session settings, but hey it's free and quality.
The OTA cascade designs in all Rolands from SH-101 to Jupiter 8 are fundamentally the same but very different to the filter designs of major US synths of the 70's and 80's (Moog, ARP, Sequential and Oberheim). They're different again from the likes of Korg's classic analog designs from the same era.
As simple as the chorus unit was in the Jupiters and Juno's, there's no denying that it was a large part of their signature sound, especially effective on rich pads/strings.
I ordered the TC pedal myself on the basis that I trust TC Electronics to release a product that's based on more than nostalgic hype.
Oh, yet another one: Audiodamage QuatroMod. Sounds more like the Juno Chorus tbh.
I've been wanting a HW stereo chorus to pair with my Behringer D so I could have a stand-alone/giggable synth rig that didn't require the iPad. The sound quality in the various videos I've watched isn't consistent so I'm hoping that this does what is advertised on the tin. If so, $50 is a damn steal.
The DLYM one is nice, but it's been crashing on me in apeMatrix and AUM lately... as soon as I adjust it.
The free Blamsoft Chorus is decent.
I'm not really that schooled on the Juno sound, but to my ears... off the 6 or 7 chorus apps I have, the FAC Chorus and the Chorus section of Audio Damage's QuatroMod sound good and natural. Tried the AudioEffx Virsyn one as recommended and liked it too.
All in all... my preference would likely be the FAC Chorus one.
Thought that a few might giggle at the photo evidence of my nerdery (as if proof were needed!). I Just realised that sitting in a nearby drawer was a bunch of IR1309 filter chips as used in Rolands 80's synths. I had more but they're sitting proudly in a couple of Mutable Instruments Shruti's which I DIY'd years ago. I've got every intention of using at least one of the spares in another DIY build but I keep them around for future repairs should the need arise.
http://www.florian-anwander.de/roland_filters/
If you are looking for a Juno sounding chorus which that pedal is designed to emulate than you're going to be disappointed from the demos I've heard and even head to head comparisons with a Juno synth. For starters, the modulation rate is too fast and doesn't encompass the stereo field as well either. I have yet to hear a demo of that thick, gooey, Rolandy sound and I think it sounds fairly thin. I think it sounds OK but IMHO it is a complete fail if its goal was indeed to emulate a Juno chorus. I love being pleasantly surprised by affordable gear but I think this isn't a winner.
We'll see - there was enough variety in the videos that I wasn't convinced either way. I can afford to take a chance with $50. Thank God for Sweetwater - if it sucks, it goes right back.
I've got confidence that they'll be no need to return it, but if it is a dud, back it will go. However, I'll wait to feed it some program choices of my own before judging whether it's a success.
That classic chorus sound we think of as Juno-esque has as much to do with the filter as it does the chorus, so what you feed the TC pedal will make a big bearing as to the results you get. The Juno is particularly impressive as it sounds so full whilst only having a single DCO but I've never been one who considered all that richness came from the chorus alone.
A while back I had a fire at my studio and lost a lot of irreplaceable vintage kit, but one of the things I've been scouring the second-hand markets for, is a replacement for my old Roland SDD-320 Dimension D. But the prices are plainly ridiculous as you'll see below. If a $50 pedal only gets me part of the way there it will be $50 well spent compared to prices being asked for a Dimension D these days.
https://reverb.com/uk/item/296985-roland-sdd-320-dimension-d-vintage-studio-chorus-stereo-chorus
I agree and hope I'm dead wrong because I would love a pedal like that and its sorta been my white whale.
If you want a little hardware box and you can find a second-hand Clavia Micro Modular, I can send you my Dimension D patch. The Micro Modular has stereo line inputs and outputs and can store 99 presets. It's great, even when only used as a tiny FX box. No reverb and only about 2ms delay modules, but sufficient for all kinds of modulation, wave shaping and more exotic sound mangling.
You'll probably need an old Windows machine or VM to program it but it's doable and once the programs are loaded, the unit works standalone.
I'm a huge fan of the Clavia and owned the Nord Modular G2 for many years, which in truth I regret selling.
As it happens I have one desktop plugin that gets me close to the Dimension D by an independent development outfit called Empty Room Systems (all their plugins are great):
https://emptyroomsystems.com/ers-dimension-d-v1-2.html
But you've sown a seed there ref Micro Modular. I've been tinkering with the old Nord Modular demo to get over my withdrawal symptoms, which unbelievably is still listed on the Clavia website and still installs and functions under Windows 10 (with a little coercion).
It's fully functional too but only works monophonically.
https://www.nordkeyboards.com/downloads/legacy/nord-modular-g2
I've noticed that the Micro Modular is still selling at reasonable prices (the Modular G1/G2 are silly money these days), so I may well pick one up for bespoke FX stuff. Would love to hear your Dimension D patch as I should be able to run it monophonically in the demo in lieu of picking up a Micro.
Nice thinking good sir.
Send me an audio file and I will run it through my patch as soon as time permits
Edit: The Windows demo is a demo of the G2, my patch is for the G1.
Not a problem in the short term but should I decide to pick up a Micro I'll send you a PM.
Thanks for seeding a great idea.
You're welcome!