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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @McD said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @mcd: 10/4 would probably best be done as 5/4 where you treat your measure of 10 as 2 measures of 5. And you'd use either an accentless click.

    Yes. Excellent idea to simplify the DAW effort with a "time signature" setting that fits 2 bars to the pattern. I do like music where the ONE is in doubt (for the listener) but the musicians should really know when it's coming. A DAW could care less. In Reggae and some Latin (Samba) genres they just avoid playing anything on ONE at times: For me that's a type of syncopation. Syncopations confuse the listeners expectations and engage them in a form of
    aural puzzle solving.

    For dancing most people prefer 4 on the floor.

    Even when the musicians leave a hole for syncopation, they keep time. The purpose of the kick pattern I supplied wasn’t so much to use Ina final track but to provide something for OP to play to as he lays down other tracks or to help show the band mates what the beat is.

    Re reggae. I wouldn’t say that the one doesn’t get played. But not everyone plays on it. So it gets less explicit emphasis than in most pop/rock forms. In most reggae someone is playing on one. But it is much more highly syncopated with roles distributed differently from a lot of other musical forms.

  • BroCoastBroCoast

    @McD said:
    The Indian Ta - ke - ta stuff won't help teach syncopations like this when the + is
    omitted. To omit the + I wrote a "silent" - place holder for that middle 16th in the + slot.
    A syncopation is a rhythm where a note in a strong position is silent like these "And" slots.

    Take a better look at it if you think that. It's called Takadimi and was designed for where traditional notation falls short. Not for everybody but I found it very helpful for some uses.

    It's kind of like the phrases that help people learn polyrhythms. "hot cup of tea" and "pass the god damn butter."

  • McDMcD

    @BroCoast said:

    @McD said:
    The Indian Ta - ke - ta stuff won't help teach syncopations like this when the + is
    omitted. To omit the + I wrote a "silent" - place holder for that middle 16th in the + slot.
    A syncopation is a rhythm where a note in a strong position is silent like these "And" slots.

    Take a better look at it if you think that. It's called Takadimi and was designed for where traditional notation falls short. Not for everybody but I found it very helpful for some uses.

    It's kind of like the phrases that help people learn polyrhythms. "hot cup of tea" and "pass the god damn butter."

    Sorry... making assumptions is a bad idea. I'll dig deeper. You got any preferred videos?
    John McLaughlin? A Tabla Master? I remember watching Ed Shaunessey do a drum solo and he'd vocalize using Takadimi phrases and then play it across a drum set.

    I like these unusual threads on obscure topics that take off in unexpected directions then they roll off the front page into the archive of 50,000 comments.

  • CracklePotCracklePot

    Ta Ke Di Na = 1 e and a
    There are other syllabic phrases that cover pretty much any rhythm you could imagine.
    Syncopation is pretty common in the music of other cultures.

  • BroCoastBroCoast

    @McD said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @McD said:
    The Indian Ta - ke - ta stuff won't help teach syncopations like this when the + is
    omitted. To omit the + I wrote a "silent" - place holder for that middle 16th in the + slot.
    A syncopation is a rhythm where a note in a strong position is silent like these "And" slots.

    Take a better look at it if you think that. It's called Takadimi and was designed for where traditional notation falls short. Not for everybody but I found it very helpful for some uses.

    It's kind of like the phrases that help people learn polyrhythms. "hot cup of tea" and "pass the god damn butter."

    Sorry... making assumptions is a bad idea. I'll dig deeper. You got any preferred videos?
    John McLaughlin? A Tabla Master? I remember watching Ed Shaunessey do a drum solo and he'd vocalize using Takadimi phrases and then play it across a drum set.

    I like these unusual threads on obscure topics that take off in unexpected directions then they roll off the front page into the archive of 50,000 comments.

    It's called Gateway To Rhythm.

    here is a lo-fi snippet.

    I forgot they refer to it as Konokol. It's been over a decade synth I last watched it. :)

  • CracklePotCracklePot

    He is living in DrumJam these days, it seems. ;)

  • BroCoastBroCoast

    @CracklePot said:
    He is living in DrumJam these days, it seems. ;)

    LOL

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