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Bluetooth MIDI from iPhone to iPad via AUM

...vice versa, iPad to iPad, iPhone to iPhone etc etc.

Might be a game changer for me. AUM is my go to host currently and has been for a year or so but that is not without regret. For example, one thing I miss out on from Audiobus is the remote.

But setting up AUM as a bluetooth peripheral on one device to control AUM is beautiful. Its not the same as Audiobus Remote as I’m sending MIDI info rather than remote control of apps. But this is perhaps enough to fill that yearning.

So now I can play KB-1 on my iPhone wirelessly. Set up some Rozeta apps and sequence devices on the iPad. Things like XY and Scaler are very nice in this context. Autony could be awesome used this way too (once iPhone scaling is fixed), using Gestrument Pro’s pressure capability on a dedicated device...

Etc....

The possibility is wide open and so far it runs smoothly without noticeable latency.

OP EDIT:

How to example :

To control Bram Bos’ app Troublemaker on iPad with another phone with AUM.

In setting up your send device (for this e.g. an iPhone) go into the Settings tab, scroll to the bottom to Bluetooth MIDI and touch Peripheral. Turn on to advertise your device.

Now on your host device (e.g. iPad) go into the AUM Settings and under Bluetooth MIDI choose Central and select your send device (in this e.g. the iPhone.)

Now, in the MIDI set up for your MIDI send device (e.g. iPhone with Rozeta Bassline loaded in AUM) go to MIDI Route and link the Bassline to the Bluetooth iPad in the Matrix.

On the iPad make sure that in MIDI Route you connect the Troublemaker from iPhone.
It should work.

Check all your MIDI channel stuff if its still not working.

Comments

  • Thanks for pointing this out @Calverhall. I did not know Aum did this. Magical.

  • Yup, Bluetooth from iDevice to iDevice is magical. The ultimate midi controller and recording/performance tool.

  • I tried that once, and the latency for me was very noticeable. The devices weren’t even that far from each other. I was just playing the AUM keyboard on my phone and sending to the iPad. Maybe it was because it’s an iPhone 6 but that should have the same speed Bluetooth.

  • It was definitely abit crap when I tried a long while back with an iPhone 6, but that could have been software rather than hardware at that point.

  • I can’t wait to try this out. Nice one.

  • Let us know how it pans out.

  • @Calverhall said:
    Let us know how it pans out.

    I can’t get it working at the moment. I’ve got my iPhone 7 connected via Bluetooth to my 2018 iPad Pro, and I’m trying to use kB-1 (on my phone) to connect to Poison (ipad). No joy yet, though, even though AUM is telling me that both devices are connected. I’m clearly doing something wrong so will have a look at the midi routing.

  • To make sure we are on the same page I’ll explain how I got it to work.
    To control Bram Bos’ app Troublemaker on iPad with another phone with AUM.

    In setting up your send device (e.g. iPhone) go into the Settings tab, scroll to the bottom to Bluetooth MIDI and touch Peripheral. Turn on to advertise your device.

    Now on your host device (e.g. iPad) go into the AUM Settings and under Bluetooth MIDI choose Central and select your send device (in this e.g. the iPhone.)

    Now, in the MIDI set up for your MIDI send device (e.g. iPhone with Rozeta Bassline loaded in AUM) go to MIDI Route and link top Bassline to the Bluetooth iPad in the Matrix.

    On the iPad make sure that in MIDI route you connect the Troublemaker from iPhone. It should work.

    Check all your MIDI channel stuff if its still not working.

  • Excellent tip, definitely gonna do this later! Thanks Calverhall 😀

  • Works great for me,
    Thanks for the tip, now using my old iPhone 6 which was gathering dust, can't notice any lag
    Quick to set up, has now added another level to my set up

  • Is there a reason why (other than wanting to record in something like BM3 or Auria) you wouldn’t use the iPad as the controller for more screen space for tweaking synths etc and the iPhone as the receiver?

  • @mjcouche said:
    Is there a reason why (other than wanting to record in something like BM3 or Auria) you wouldn’t use the iPad as the controller for more screen space for tweaking synths etc and the iPhone as the receiver?

    Why not? Depends if your phone can hack multi track recording maybe?

    Whatever you prefer.

  • @Calverhall said:
    To make sure we are on the same page I’ll explain how I got it to work.
    To control Bram Bos’ app Troublemaker on iPad with another phone with AUM.

    In setting up your send device (e.g. iPhone) go into the Settings tab, scroll to the bottom to Bluetooth MIDI and touch Peripheral. Turn on to advertise your device.

    Now on your host device (e.g. iPad) go into the AUM Settings and under Bluetooth MIDI choose Central and select your send device (in this e.g. the iPhone.)

    Now, in the MIDI set up for your MIDI send device (e.g. iPhone with Rozeta Bassline loaded in AUM) go to MIDI Route and link top Bassline to the Bluetooth iPad in the Matrix.

    On the iPad make sure that in MIDI route you connect the Troublemaker from iPhone. It should work.

    Check all your MIDI channel stuff if its still not working.

    Superstar! This works like a charm, so many thanks for your clear outline. Yippee!

  • How does this work ?

    Advertise from from right ipad.

    Nothing shows in left ipad aum.

  • Weird, it should work. Make sure blue tooth is activated on the receiving iPad?

  • @Calverhall said:
    Weird, it should work. Make sure blue tooth is activated on the receiving iPad?

    The original op lol.

    Bluetooth is on both ipads.

    Do you just advetise device and it will show in central in aum. On other ipad ?

  • Yeah thats pretty much it, if i was in your situation I would try advertising on the other one and see if it shows on first one. Could be an OS bug or AUM bug? I also use the Korg bluetooth midi tool, you could try testing with that. Im going to have a quick go myself now with my iPhone and iPad …

  • @Calverhall said:
    Yeah thats pretty much it, if i was in your situation I would try advertising on the other one and see if it shows on first one. Could be an OS bug or AUM bug? I also use the Korg bluetooth midi tool, you could try testing with that. Im going to have a quick go myself now with my iPhone and iPad …

    Thanks.

    The Korg app connects it ( unsure why apple cant )

    Should have known.

    It were needed to use korg devices, when I first bought ipad.

  • It works immediately with my iPhone and iPad, weird. Glad its working now with the Korg tool!

  • @Calverhall said:
    It works immediately with my iPhone and iPad, weird. Glad its working now with the Korg tool!

    Thanks Calverhall.

  • @sigma79 - I had a similar situation only once in the past, but a reboot of both devices fixed it back then.

    Oh, and I've had other situations where another device was stealing the Bluetooth connection to the advertising iPad. Now that Bluetooth MIDI reconnects automatically, if there's another device you connected to earlier, then it can sometimes get to the connection before the other device has a chance.

  • @wim said:
    @sigma79 - I had a similar situation only once in the past, but a reboot of both devices fixed it back then.

    Oh, and I've had other situations where another device was stealing the Bluetooth connection to the advertising iPad. Now that Bluetooth MIDI reconnects automatically, if there's another device you connected to earlier, then it can sometimes get to the connection before the other device has a chance.

    It needed the korg app to show as a device in the ipads general bluetooth settings, to then show in aum. Im used to Drambo bypassing the need to connect devices to the ipads general bluetooth settings ( so forgot about the korg app )

    It worked as you said though.

    Once aum sends to an aum on another ipad.

    It then there for aum to Drambo.

    Thanks wim.

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