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Guitar Ambience - the reverse approach
After tuning my old Boss ME-5 pedal into a recordable device I captured and arranged some snippets. While I like the pure guitar sound on it's own, the whole thing seems a bit crowded and loosing focus. Here's the desktop mix:
So this time I'm going the other way around and do the rearrangement on iPad 
Feedback to sound and content is welcome, though.
The original track has been replaced by this version, which is a bit streamlined and got reworked (and different) drums, so some of the comments may not fit anymore.
Sorry for the inconvenience, but this is mainly a guide track for the IOS remix.
Comments
Tone is really nice!
Are you experiencing a lot of latency or something because the tracks sound pretty out of sync?
How did you make a 1990's Boss ME-5 into a recordable device? The guitar sounds great. I love a clean guitar sound tone. The ME-5 was a multi-FX pedal but it doesn't sound like your using any (maybe a touch of clean reverb?)
I think I'd like to hear it without the drum track to catch all the nuances of the guitar(s?). There's some good chord work going on and I'd like to hear it all.
You know how to record guitars based upon some other tracks you shared over the months
here.
@McD yes, the pedal is 30 years old and all analog except for the reverb/delay section.
Back then there were no DSP chips and Boss did it like Lexicon (Lexichip) with a programmed logic array. The quality of this pre-90s approach to 'rooms' surprised me, in particular the wide headphone output. It gets in trouble with sharp attacks in the high frequency range, so some adustment of playing is due... or live with the artifacts.
People praise it, but sound examples are rather 'wtf is that about ?'
The headphone out is great, while the recording output delivers a flat and boxy signal.
No reason to find in the circuit diagram, all nicely done - took me hours of fiddling and failing.
The final solution was to fake cans by 2 low impedance transformers between pedal and interface input and that's the result.
You heard it correctly: only the reverb of the pedal is active, captured by the iCA4+.
It's either no latency or all latency - the individual (Telecaster) parts are cut together from 3 recordings of about 45 minutes. The strumming Martin parts are some years old and kind of fitted... but not perfectly, as you noticed.
I build up harmonies (or what I consider 'harmony') by ear. Of course I know what chords are, but I can't remember what I'm playing, so the musical content reveals only later for myself when skipping through the session(s). Picking a cherry here and there...
This method turned out to be a big relief after trying to learn guitar the traditional way, which is almost physical pain.
I just play what crosses the mind atm and the DAW allows me to reveal the hidden context and then hopefully build up on that.
But as self often turns into a feedback loop, it entered my mind to better ask how it's perceived - and share some of the recording experience.
It's only a 3 track project with 2 effects: for dynamic the equivalent of Pro-L2 or FAC Maxima (Saw Studio Levelizer) and the wide reverb on one of the guitar tracks (Valhalla Übermod's reverb preset TapeEcho). The latter also does the fake fade out of the track.
The e-guitar parts are just as they came out from the ME-5 with it's reverb engaged.
Thanks to you both for listening and sharing ideas
Oh cool.
Interesting about the outputs on your ME-5. I'm not sure why that would be? Though those jacks aren't very robust and I had to replace them on one unit and reflow the joins on my other unit.
I look forward to hearing more.
If what you want is "guitar ambience" then a crowd without much focus can be a good thing
You could go even further and add some granular "smearing" of your guitar, like with Spacecraft or Borderlands Granular.
If you want more focus then concentrate on your rhythm and how the tracks match rhythmically.
Straightened the thing and removed the drums.
(first couple of seconds is just the ME-5)
@McD here's your guitars-only-mix.
@rs2000 thanks for listening and advice... guilty as charged
btw I called it 'ambient' for there are only reverbed guitars on the track (atm).
@BroCoast I'm as clueless as you about the output difference between headphone and recording channels of the pedal. It's in fairly good condition considering it's age, but I also had to resolder some of the plugs.
Thanks for creating this mix... I can really hear the 2 guitars now. They are recorded perfectly and I like the musical touches: the bending, what sounds like fingers on the strings and that dreamy reversed space you create. Really great to see you putting up a sample of your recording hardware to demonstrate your considerable engineering skills.