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Tonality - Music Reference by Bryce Hostetler - Updated with Midi and Auv3 support

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  • @royor said:

    @[Deleted User] said:

    @royor said:
    So right now, the chord ID function is only available through the mic input?

    Also if you play a chord via midi.

    Ah, OK.. could be useful for my cat-walking-on-the-piano compositions.. 😂

    😄

  • @GrimLucky said:
    This works great for identifying chords in AUM but causes Cubasis to crash, anyone else got this working?

    I think I’ve fixed the issue - it’ll be in the next update and you can let me know how it works.

  • @MonkeyDrummer said:

    @TonalityApp said:

    You get a full chord searcher, and after a page to edit the voicing/velocity of each note

    Now that looks more like the app I think people really want... please make those little sub-keyboards send individual midi out as well note by note...

    As in arpeggiating when you swipe them? Or just chords? And why those? The chord pads will already have MIDI out.

  • @oldschoolwillie said:

    @TonalityApp said:
    I’ll add MIDI out as soon as possible then. I don’t actually have access to a computer at the moment but when I do I’ll make that my first priority.

    Thank you could you consider adding midi export too....I would definitely buy it.
    I might buy it anyway just becsue you added Midi out .....sir you rock!

    Just realized you meant something different with MIDI export – what exactly would that entail?

  • @TonalityApp said:

    @GrimLucky said:
    This works great for identifying chords in AUM but causes Cubasis to crash, anyone else got this working?

    I think I’ve fixed the issue - it’ll be in the next update and you can let me know how it works.

    Thanks that was fast 😀, looking forward to the update.

    I was playing around earlier with sending midi from cubasis via Bluetooth to AUM on my iphone so it can display the chords on a second screen as they’re playing in cubasis

  • @GrimLucky said:

    @TonalityApp said:

    @GrimLucky said:
    This works great for identifying chords in AUM but causes Cubasis to crash, anyone else got this working?

    I think I’ve fixed the issue - it’ll be in the next update and you can let me know how it works.

    Thanks that was fast 😀, looking forward to the update.

    I was playing around earlier with sending midi from cubasis via Bluetooth to AUM on my iphone so it can display the chords on a second screen as they’re playing in cubasis

    Nice that’s one way to get around it 😂

  • @TonalityApp said:

    @MonkeyDrummer said:

    @TonalityApp said:

    You get a full chord searcher, and after a page to edit the voicing/velocity of each note

    Now that looks more like the app I think people really want... please make those little sub-keyboards send individual midi out as well note by note...

    As in arpeggiating when you swipe them? Or just chords? And why those? The chord pads will already have MIDI out.

    In that one screenshot, there’s a piano below all the note and chord labels. It would be nice to have that keyboard send midi notes. For example to allow a simple arp or chord constrained melody out from that screen to feed into a piano roll for example...

  • edited July 2019

    @MonkeyDrummer said:

    @TonalityApp said:

    @MonkeyDrummer said:

    @TonalityApp said:

    You get a full chord searcher, and after a page to edit the voicing/velocity of each note

    Now that looks more like the app I think people really want... please make those little sub-keyboards send individual midi out as well note by note...

    As in arpeggiating when you swipe them? Or just chords? And why those? The chord pads will already have MIDI out.

    In that one screenshot, there’s a piano below all the note and chord labels. It would be nice to have that keyboard send midi notes. For example to allow a simple arp or chord constrained melody out from that screen to feed into a piano roll for example...

    That’s what each chord pad does. You pick a chord from that screen, customize its voicing, and then the chord pad becomes a trigger. Is there any reason you’d want the previews (which is what those small keyboards are) to send MIDI as well?

    Or do you mean that the keyboard should allow you to play it but only using the notes in the chord displayed?

  • I like the look of this ... useful and educational aren't necessarily mutually exclusive... get a lot more of us possibly learning something... and yer excellent efforts earning something.

    One of the things I find very useful about Xfer Record's Cthulhu is its built-in stash of odd keys and chords ... even some Prokovief in there and a whole fistful of Bachs... so I'm hoping Tonality might be having a cumulative base of chord charts - would be real handy, saving presets and the like.

  • @Soundscaper said:
    I like the look of this ... useful and educational aren't necessarily mutually exclusive... get a lot more of us possibly learning something... and yer excellent efforts earning something.

    One of the things I find very useful about Xfer Record's Cthulhu is its built-in stash of odd keys and chords ... even some Prokovief in there and a whole fistful of Bachs... so I'm hoping Tonality might be having a cumulative base of chord charts - would be real handy, saving presets and the like.

    Thanks for the kind words! I do have plans to add chord progressions in the future, but I am just one developer (and I have many other ideas) so it will probably be a while.

  • @TonalityApp

    Looks great, don't know if it is possible but in some cases it would be cool to have a longer delay on the chord display turning off after midi notes depressed.

    Meaning currently once you release fingers from keyboard the chord display disappears instantly which is perfect in most cases but I like to see an option/slider to delay the image from disappearing after midi notes off.

  • @[Deleted User] said:
    @TonalityApp

    Looks great, don't know if it is possible but in some cases it would be cool to have a longer delay on the chord display turning off after midi notes depressed.

    Meaning currently once you release fingers from keyboard the chord display disappears instantly which is perfect in most cases but I like to see an option/slider to delay the image from disappearing after midi notes off.

    Yeah I can do that! Would something like a “latch” button work well (instead of just a delay)?

  • edited July 2019

    @TonalityApp said:

    @[Deleted User] said:
    @TonalityApp

    Looks great, don't know if it is possible but in some cases it would be cool to have a longer delay on the chord display turning off after midi notes depressed.

    Meaning currently once you release fingers from keyboard the chord display disappears instantly which is perfect in most cases but I like to see an option/slider to delay the image from disappearing after midi notes off.

    Yeah I can do that! Would something like a “latch” button work well (instead of just a delay)?

    yep, the sustain midi cc64 is an option plus a latch button which is probably easier to add?
    mmm, may a delay is nice too .... hmmm

  • edited July 2019

    Version 3.0 with a new chord pad Audio Unit, more powerful chord recognizer, and other improvements should be out in the next few days. Here's a preview:

    https://www.facebook.com/2283707291945848/videos/2249739528670579/

  • Okay it’s ready! Let me know if it’s what you wanted: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tonality-music-reference/id1467552236

  • @TonalityApp said:
    Okay it’s ready! Let me know if it’s what you wanted: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tonality-music-reference/id1467552236

    Thanks for adding the chord pad audio unit, it’s really great 😊👍

  • edited July 2019

    Agreed, bought! Great work! Have only used a bit, but this will be handy. One request to make adding chords to pads faster: thinking + and then select without having to click done.

  • Glad it’s useful! Regarding quicker chord entry – this would bypass the voicing editor. Would you want just the default voicing in this case?

  • @TonalityApp said:
    Okay it’s ready! Let me know if it’s what you wanted: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tonality-music-reference/id1467552236

    Hi there.
    Enjoying the app update. Thank you.

    I cannot seem to pan the Chord Pad view around, so I cannot access the lower rows of pads.
    Could the Pad layouts be made to auto-scale to fit the AU window?
    Also, could column/row settings be available, so layouts are not always square (i.e. 8 columns x 2 rows) ?

  • @CracklePot said:

    @TonalityApp said:
    Okay it’s ready! Let me know if it’s what you wanted: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tonality-music-reference/id1467552236

    Hi there.
    Enjoying the app update. Thank you.

    I cannot seem to pan the Chord Pad view around, so I cannot access the lower rows of pads.
    Could the Pad layouts be made to auto-scale to fit the AU window?
    Also, could column/row settings be available, so layouts are not always square (i.e. 8 columns x 2 rows) ?

    Glad you like it! What host are you using? The AU should auto-scale for different widths but if the height is that small there’s not much I can do without making the pads unusably tiny. I can add panning though.

    Other layouts will be available in future updates.

  • @TonalityApp said:

    @CracklePot said:

    @TonalityApp said:
    Okay it’s ready! Let me know if it’s what you wanted: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tonality-music-reference/id1467552236

    Hi there.
    Enjoying the app update. Thank you.

    I cannot seem to pan the Chord Pad view around, so I cannot access the lower rows of pads.
    Could the Pad layouts be made to auto-scale to fit the AU window?
    Also, could column/row settings be available, so layouts are not always square (i.e. 8 columns x 2 rows) ?

    Glad you like it! What host are you using? The AU should auto-scale for different widths but if the height is that small there’s not much I can do without making the pads unusably tiny. I can add panning though.

    Other layouts will be available in future updates.

    Thank you for the reply. :)
    I was using it in AUM. It does scale horizontally.
    I agree that it shouldn’t scale vertically, now that you mentioned how tiny the pads would get.
    The pads are a really nice addition to this app. I love how easy it is to edit the voicing. Very handy.

  • @TonalityApp said:
    Glad it’s useful! Regarding quicker chord entry – this would bypass the voicing editor. Would you want just the default voicing in this case?

    Yes, that was my initial thought though editing does provide flexibility.

  • Thanks for the update, chord ID is working well in Cubasis now.

  • @TonalityApp - one of the great things about Scaler is you can set in the preferences that there is a slight velocity variation in the chords (called humanize I think?)
    So when you play the same chord 3 times, the small variation in each notes velocity gives those 3 chords really nice variation (especially on an instrument like piano - or strings for eg).
    It may even be varying the timing of when each note is played - ( this I need to varify and check)
    All this is really great for realistic sounding chord progressions.

    Just an additional thought for using this as a writing chord trigger that does not sound "stiff" like the majority of other chord apps

  • @Mayo said:
    @TonalityApp - one of the great things about Scaler is you can set in the preferences that there is a slight velocity variation in the chords (called humanize I think?)
    So when you play > @Mayo said:
    @TonalityApp - one of the great things about Scaler is you can set in the preferences that there is a slight velocity variation in the chords (called humanize I think?)
    So when you play the same chord 3 times, the small variation in each notes velocity gives those 3 chords really nice variation (especially on an instrument like piano - or strings for eg).
    It may even be varying the timing of when each note is played - ( this I need to varify and check)
    All this is really great for realistic sounding chord progressions.

    Just an additional thought for using this as a writing chord trigger that does not sound "stiff" like the majority of other chord apps

    That’s a cool idea! I’ll add it to my list.

  • Great !

  • Hi, just purchased, the ability to view both the AU midi in recogniser and pad out simultaneously in AUM was vital for me as a musical dunce. Now I can feed sequences from anything (currently generating them via Autony) into the recogniser AU, demo possible complementary chords in the pad AU, pick the ones I want, and then play the pads along with the sequence, all in real time - exactly what I needed!

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Hi, just purchased, the ability to view both the AU midi in recogniser and pad out simultaneously in AUM was vital for me as a musical dunce. Now I can feed sequences from anything (currently generating them via Autony) into the recogniser AU, demo possible complementary chords in the pad AU, pick the ones I want, and then play the pads along with the sequence, all in real time - exactly what I needed!

    Glad it’s useful! Let me know if you have any suggestions.

  • Does this analyze/identify audio?

  • @WillieNegus said:
    Does this analyze/identify audio?

    Yes, through the mic input.

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