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Brusfri vs Hokusai

eyesundergroundeyesunderground
in General App Discussion

Which do you prefer? Why?

Have read some things about Brusfri crashing. Don’t know much about Hokusai.

Currently use audacity to remove noise when needed, but like the idea of using iOS.

Mostly using it for removing noise from poorly recorded samples.

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @eyesunderground said:
    Which do you prefer? Why?

    Have read some things about Brusfri crashing. Don’t know much about Hokusai.

    Currently use audacity to remove noise when needed, but like the idea of using iOS.

    Mostly using it for removing noise from poorly recorded samples.

    Brusfri is designed to remove noise when you have noise-only section of the audio you are cleaning up. It does an excellent job for such recordings.

  • McDMcD

    I use Brusfri live in an FX strip to remove hum and buzz: especially for electric guitars. Hit learn and let go and the buzz is just gone. I guess it can be used for post-production too by selecting a noice sample to apply t the whole track and this is the workflow model for Hokusai, I guess. It can't do my live de-buzzing tasks. Gates just block the signal below some threshold. Brusfri is magical.

    For post production there must be mastering tools that also cab be deployed.

  • Morgman73Morgman73

    I love Hokusai. It’s such a great app. Definitely my go to iOS audio editor.

  • SamuSamu

    Hokusai had to go from my iPad. I just can't cope with the UI...
    I do get some love it but I really do prefer TwistedWave over Hokusai.

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  • SamuSamu

    @tja said:

    I like TwistedWave too, but never noticed a noise removal in it.
    It offers that?

    Not built-in but when needed I use Brusfri with it.
    The developer is quite open to suggestions so it doesn't hurt to send a message :)

    One of the reasons for the sparse TwistedWave updates is that users don't request new things and seldom report issues.
    That can be seen from two sides, either the users are happy with the app as is or they don't bother reporting issues hoping some one else does...

    I use TwistedWave a LOT on the iPhone 8 as it's one of the few apps that lets me choose which of the microphones to use for recording while monitoring using a headset meaning I can listen via Lightning Headset and record using which ever of the iPhone 8 mics I wish to use (Back, Front, Bottom or Headset Mic). Also it has the option to disable iOS processing when recording and then quickly enable it when editing thus bypassing the super annoying 'Auto Gain' that many apps using the built-in microphones or headsets suffer from. Lots of things to love about TwistedWave but man my #1 request is to be able to disable the auto zero-snap for true sample accurate editing.

    As for noise in general it's better to avoid recording too much of it and use a gate at the input but that's another discussion.

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @tja said:

    @Samu said:
    Hokusai had to go from my iPad. I just can't cope with the UI...
    I do get some love it but I really do prefer TwistedWave over Hokusai.

    I like TwistedWave too, but never noticed a noise removal in it.
    It offers that?

    +1 TwistedWave.

    It has no dedicated noise removal but playing with the LPF can do a lot of noise filtering too.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @tja @Samu @Pierre118
    I think Samu was hinting at the AUv3 support inside TwistedWave, including brusfri.
    I was in touch with the TwistedWave developer a while ago and I had the impression that he wasn't really interested in adding new features, neither fixing a few issues with some AUv3 effects.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @rs2000 said:
    @tja @Samu @Pierre118
    I think Samu was hinting at the AUv3 support inside TwistedWave, including brusfri.
    I was in touch with the TwistedWave developer a while ago and I had the impression that he wasn't really interested in adding new features, neither fixing a few issues with some AUv3 effects.

    It doesn't seem that the developer is interested in adding features to TW iOS even when people contact him.

  • eyesundergroundeyesunderground

    Thanks to all for the replies so far, very helpful.

  • FingolfinzzzFingolfinzzz

    I’ll just ask here since it’s sort of on the subject, is it normal for Brusfi to be so cpu hungry? It works great but a lot of times I can barely use it because I’m going over 100% and is Hokusai the only alternative?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @JackDwyerburger said:
    I’ll just ask here since it’s sort of on the subject, is it normal for Brusfi to be so cpu hungry? It works great but a lot of times I can barely use it because I’m going over 100% and is Hokusai the only alternative?

    What hardware are you running on?

    What else is being used when you've got Brusfri running?

  • FingolfinzzzFingolfinzzz

    @espiegel123 said:

    @JackDwyerburger said:
    I’ll just ask here since it’s sort of on the subject, is it normal for Brusfi to be so cpu hungry? It works great but a lot of times I can barely use it because I’m going over 100% and is Hokusai the only alternative?

    What hardware are you running on?

    What else is being used when you've got Brusfri running?

    Admittedly I am on an Air 1 so I’m sure that doesn’t help. Right now I’m using it in Auria but it’s been across the board in any host I’ve used and just with audio files and no synths/midi going on

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @JackDwyerburger said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @JackDwyerburger said:
    I’ll just ask here since it’s sort of on the subject, is it normal for Brusfi to be so cpu hungry? It works great but a lot of times I can barely use it because I’m going over 100% and is Hokusai the only alternative?

    What hardware are you running on?

    What else is being used when you've got Brusfri running?

    Admittedly I am on an Air 1 so I’m sure that doesn’t help. Right now I’m using it in Auria but it’s been across the board in any host I’ve used and just with audio files and no synths/midi going on

    Typically, it is a plug-in that you don't leave on all the time. So, the CPU hit typically is kind of (in my opinion) irrelevant. I bounce the cleaned up audio and then am done with the plug-in until I have another file to clean-up.

  • FingolfinzzzFingolfinzzz

    @espiegel123 said:

    @JackDwyerburger said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @JackDwyerburger said:
    I’ll just ask here since it’s sort of on the subject, is it normal for Brusfi to be so cpu hungry? It works great but a lot of times I can barely use it because I’m going over 100% and is Hokusai the only alternative?

    What hardware are you running on?

    What else is being used when you've got Brusfri running?

    Admittedly I am on an Air 1 so I’m sure that doesn’t help. Right now I’m using it in Auria but it’s been across the board in any host I’ve used and just with audio files and no synths/midi going on

    Typically, it is a plug-in that you don't leave on all the time. So, the CPU hit typically is kind of (in my opinion) irrelevant. I bounce the cleaned up audio and then am done with the plug-in until I have another file to clean-up.

    Okay cool that’s what I figured. I went ahead and just did like you said and cleaned it up and bounced it. Isolated it takes about 60% so it’s enough to clean it and bounce

  • haulin_noteshaulin_notes
    edited July 2019

    Brusfri rules! Just got it. (Was trying to wait for a sale, but couldn’t. It’ll probably be half price tomorrow! 😄) I’m doing some vocal (speaking) recording with the excellent Ferrite app that is perfect for podcasts and audiobook narration, etc. Tried using Ableton, but it felt clunky compared to the multi-touch gestures and streamlined workflow for vocals that Ferrite has. (By Wooji Juice (great name) the devs behind Hokusai, btw). About Brusfri, it zapped away the mic noise. I’d bought a good condenser mic, and was disappointed that there was still some hiss. Guess that is just the nature of the beastie. But Brusfri tames the wild beast! 👍

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @haulin_notes said:
    I’d bought a good condenser mic, and was disappointed that there was still some hiss. Guess that is just the nature of the beastie. But Brusfri tames the wild beast! 👍

    Depending on your setup you might be able to get rid of the hiss by turning the gain down on the Mic or the interface and then boosting the volume in post. Generally cheap preamps can be quite noisy, so it's better to record quiet and then add digital gain later, you get a much cleaner recording that way.

  • theconnactictheconnactic

    @richardyot said:

    @haulin_notes said:
    I’d bought a good condenser mic, and was disappointed that there was still some hiss. Guess that is just the nature of the beastie. But Brusfri tames the wild beast! 👍

    Depending on your setup you might be able to get rid of the hiss by turning the gain down on the Mic or the interface and then boosting the volume in post. Generally cheap preamps can be quite noisy, so it's better to record quiet and then add digital gain later, you get a much cleaner recording that way.

    This!

  • haulin_noteshaulin_notes

    @richardyot said:

    @haulin_notes said:
    I’d bought a good condenser mic, and was disappointed that there was still some hiss. Guess that is just the nature of the beastie. But Brusfri tames the wild beast! 👍

    Depending on your setup you might be able to get rid of the hiss by turning the gain down on the Mic or the interface and then boosting the volume in post. Generally cheap preamps can be quite noisy, so it's better to record quiet and then add digital gain later, you get a much cleaner recording that way.

    Thanks! Excellent idea. That does seem to help reduce noise. There was still enough noticeable left to be a little “annoysing”. Bru to the rescue! 😊

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @McD said:
    I use Brusfri live in an FX strip to remove hum and buzz: especially for electric guitars. Hit learn and let go and the buzz is just gone. I guess it can be used for post-production too by selecting a noice sample to apply t the whole track and this is the workflow model for Hokusai, I guess. It can't do my live de-buzzing tasks. Gates just block the signal below some threshold. Brusfri is magical.

    For post production there must be mastering tools that also cab be deployed.

    This would work for ambient noise from a condenser mic, yes? The AC unit next to the room where I record is on all the time this time of year....

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    I use Brusfri instead of a noise gate this year. My Audio stuff sounds much more realistic now that things aren’t gated off at the ends.

  • wimwim

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    This would work for ambient noise from a condenser mic, yes? The AC unit next to the room where I record is on all the time this time of year....

    Yes, it should do a good job of that. Just use a passage where only the noise is present to build removal profile.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @wim said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    This would work for ambient noise from a condenser mic, yes? The AC unit next to the room where I record is on all the time this time of year....

    Yes, it should do a good job of that. Just use a passage where only the noise is present to build removal profile.

    Well, bought it and it does feel a bit like magic. Works perfectly.

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