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  • ciancian

    Absolutely understandable in a time a lot of people seem to be obsessed with skincolor

    I mean, there's a huge difference between Black Lives Matter and a white supremacist like Boyd Rice(*).

    (*) I realize there's some controversy about this, but after years following industrial/martial folk/Black Metal, I've learnt that if it quacks like a duck, 99% of the time it is a duck. Edgelords be damned.

  • RockySmallsRockySmalls

    @greengrocer said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Well, the top 50 jazz records probably would include Chet Baker and Dave Brubeck and Benny Goodman. Not saying the list necessarily omitted any black artists (though surely there were some?); just more of an observation that the genre was overwhelmingly white and that it never occurred to me before.

    Absolutely understandable in a time a lot of people seem to be obsessed with skincolor :)
    btw early computermusic is even more white. Bruce Rice (NON) wrote a whole manifest about it. Althought he's historical right concerning early electronic music, his final message is pure racist in the same way as some hiphop stars state that it exclusive music for blacks. Music can and should leap over all kind of borders and not be exclusive to one group.

    Boyd?

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  • greengrocergreengrocer

    @RockySmalls said:

    @greengrocer said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Well, the top 50 jazz records probably would include Chet Baker and Dave Brubeck and Benny Goodman. Not saying the list necessarily omitted any black artists (though surely there were some?); just more of an observation that the genre was overwhelmingly white and that it never occurred to me before.

    Absolutely understandable in a time a lot of people seem to be obsessed with skincolor :)
    btw early computermusic is even more white. Bruce Rice (NON) wrote a whole manifest about it. Althought he's historical right concerning early electronic music, his final message is pure racist in the same way as some hiphop stars state that it exclusive music for blacks. Music can and should leap over all kind of borders and not be exclusive to one group.

    Boyd?

    Yep you're right Boyd Rice

  • mannixmannix

    @greengrocer said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Well, the top 50 jazz records probably would include Chet Baker and Dave Brubeck and Benny Goodman. Not saying the list necessarily omitted any black artists (though surely there were some?); just more of an observation that the genre was overwhelmingly white and that it never occurred to me before.

    Absolutely understandable in a time a lot of people seem to be obsessed with skincolor :)
    btw early computermusic is even more white. Bruce Rice (NON) wrote a whole manifest about it. Althought he's historical right concerning early electronic music, his final message is pure racist in the same way as some hiphop stars state that it exclusive music for blacks. Music can and should leap over all kind of borders and not be exclusive to one group.

    Disagree. Rice is just a provacateur. Especially in early 80s it was somehow cool to use Nazi like imagery and be vague about it. Another good example of this is Laibach.

  • greengrocergreengrocer
    edited August 2019

    .> @cian said:

    Absolutely understandable in a time a lot of people seem to be obsessed with skincolor

    I mean, there's a huge difference between Black Lives Matter and a white supremacist like Boyd Rice(*).

    Sorry this is a Straw Man. I'm nowhere talking about BLM. I like discussing things but please don't represent me wrong.

    @mannix said:

    @greengrocer said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Well, the top 50 jazz records probably would include Chet Baker and Dave Brubeck and Benny Goodman. Not saying the list necessarily omitted any black artists (though surely there were some?); just more of an observation that the genre was overwhelmingly white and that it never occurred to me before.

    Absolutely understandable in a time a lot of people seem to be obsessed with skincolor :)
    btw early computermusic is even more white. Bruce Rice (NON) wrote a whole manifest about it. Althought he's historical right concerning early electronic music, his final message is pure racist in the same way as some hiphop stars state that it exclusive music for blacks. Music can and should leap over all kind of borders and not be exclusive to one group.

    Disagree. Rice is just a provacateur. Especially in early 80s it was somehow cool to use Nazi like imagery and be vague about it. Another good example of this is Laibach.

    Must say that I didn't delve into this whole part. Remember seeing an interview in which he more or less promoted White Supremacy. Maybe I just didn't listen carefully...
    Agree with you that throughout the 70s and 80s Nazi imagery was just cool, probably to shock people. It could even be found in performances by ordinairy and mainstream popgroups. Take a look at how Glamrock bands looked in de early 70s. They used swastika's and dressed up like dragqueens.

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