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Roland have gone gear crazy again!

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  • kobamotokobamoto

    @echoopera said:
    Ok. Watched enough videos on this thing. Going to get one. It’s everything I’ve wanted in BeatMaker3 and then some on iOS.

    May have to sell off the OT MKII to fund it...but man...it looks solid for the way i make music.

    Roland nailed it for me now that i see all that it does.

    oh my, what vid did you like the most outside of loopops?

  • EnkerliEnkerli

    Nobody mentioned the Aerophone Mini? https://www.roland.com/global/products/aerophone_mini/

  • echooperaechoopera

    @kobamoto said:

    @echoopera said:
    Ok. Watched enough videos on this thing. Going to get one. It’s everything I’ve wanted in BeatMaker3 and then some on iOS.

    May have to sell off the OT MKII to fund it...but man...it looks solid for the way i make music.

    Roland nailed it for me now that i see all that it does.

    oh my, what vid did you like the most outside of loopops?

    The Roland Channel videos:

  • kobamotokobamoto
    edited September 2019

    thanks, the one thing that I really appreciate about Roland is the Faders, everything else has too few, none, or like akai they had them and removed them like a crazy person

    I hope Stimming does a review!!

  • ProppaProppa

    @kobamoto said:

    I hope Stimming does a review!!

    +1 x 100

  • robosardinerobosardine

    @echoopera said:
    Ok. Watched enough videos on this thing. Going to get one. It’s everything I’ve wanted in BeatMaker3 and then some on iOS.

    May have to sell off the OT MKII to fund it...but man...it looks solid for the way i make music.

    Roland nailed it for me now that i see all that it does.

    Which one are you getting? I am thinking that the 101 will be an easier and more convenient integration to iOS than the 707 with its size and battery option etc. iOS could say be doing all the drums whilst the 101 has four other tracks to play with.
    You may be selling your Octatrack? I’m not even sure what the sample mangling qualities on the new MC’s are apart from pitch and the scatter function- but then they are also on the 101. I’m not even sure if there is any control on the sample start/end time- anyone know?

    I’m getting one of them- but I’m going to wait and get a good look at the manuals first when they come out..

  • dreamrobedreamrobe

    @echoopera said:
    Ok. Watched enough videos on this thing. Going to get one. It’s everything I’ve wanted in BeatMaker3 and then some on iOS.

    May have to sell off the OT MKII to fund it...but man...it looks solid for the way i make music.

    Roland nailed it for me now that i see all that it does.

    dont you have something else to sell to fund the m7?
    imagine connecting m7 send to ot input and vice versa :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @echoopera said:
    Ok. Watched enough videos on this thing. Going to get one. It’s everything I’ve wanted in BeatMaker3 and then some on iOS.

    May have to sell off the OT MKII to fund it...but man...it looks solid for the way i make music.

    Roland nailed it for me now that i see all that it does.

    may i ask what you find lacking from the ocatrack? and also what you see in the Roland that interests you?

  • echooperaechoopera

    The OT isn’t missing anything...and i really don’t want to sell it. I think i just need to check myself and be patient 🤪

    I should only watch Product promotional videos after having eaten dinner. 🤔🤪

    I’ll probably get the MC707 at some point...I’ll just have to live vicariously thru @Tarekith for the time being.

    Sorry for the GAS attack here😉

  • GovernorSilverGovernorSilver

    The OT is a brilliant machine - imo - but for some things the workflow is not the fastest. That's why some fellow OT owners also got a more traditional groovebox like one of the MPCs or the 1010music Blackbox and/or are looking at the MC-707 to partner w/ the OT.

  • TarekithTarekith

    My 707 arrived yesterday, woo hoo. I just got back from a little vacation though and have a lot of mastering work to catch up on. I'll post some thoughts on it as soon as I can for those interested!

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited September 2019

    Congrats. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the box.

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    @echoopera said:
    Congrats. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the box.

    +1 on that.

  • robosardinerobosardine

    I’ve just discovered after watching the BoBeats review- the 101 and 707 have only 800 synth patches (what they call ‘tones’)- I thought it was 3000- but that includes all the one hits and percussion etc.

  • LiquidmantisLiquidmantis

    My Fantom 8 will be here on Friday! Gonna be a fun weekend.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Liquidmantis said:
    My Fantom 8 will be here on Friday! Gonna be a fun weekend.

    What! that thing is a beast!

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant

    @Tarekith said:
    My 707 arrived yesterday, woo hoo. I just got back from a little vacation though and have a lot of mastering work to catch up on. I'll post some thoughts on it as soon as I can for those interested!

    Looking forward to it!

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Tarekith said:
    My 707 arrived yesterday, woo hoo. I just got back from a little vacation though and have a lot of mastering work to catch up on. I'll post some thoughts on it as soon as I can for those interested!

    Looking forward to it!

    ditto!

  • MrSmileZMrSmileZ

    Id be more interested in the fantom than the mc line. Looking forward to deeper reviews on fantom.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    Bobeats...

    I can't justify getting it but if this were out pre BM3 / Circuit I would certainly have got it. Looks like it would be super fun.

  • TarekithTarekith
    edited September 2019

    First thoughts on the MC707 in a random fashion:

    • It's deeper than I expected, though I think Roland did a pretty good job of making it easy to get to anything you'd want to edit with as few button presses as possible.
    • The synth and effect sounds are really nice, much better than I was expecting. You can deep on synth editing if you want, though this is one area where you're definitely going to be relying on the screen and menu diving a lot.
    • The included drum sounds a nice, though I find the actual "kits" they give you to be a bit generic sounding compared to the TR-8S. You're definitely better off building your own drum kits, and this seems pretty easy to do.
    • I haven't done anything with samples or the looper yet;
    • Saving and loading projects is a bit slow, and like Roland Grooveboxes of the past you have to have the sequencer stopped to do it. Boo.
    • Remapping the knobs to something other than the defaults is soooo much simpler than on the TR-8S, I like it. Sadly there's no way to remap all the tracks knobs at once like on the TR. I.E. you can't change all the FX knobs to the same parameter on each track in one go.
    • The pads are a touch less sensitive than I would have liked. I read before I got mine that they were as sensitive as the Push 2, no freaking are they even close. They're not bad, but they aren't on the same page as say Maschine or Push.
    • The manual is pretty convoluted. I'm sure the info is all in there but the diagrams are confusing and it makes things sound harder than they are. It'll take me a few reads to grok it all.

    Overall it's a different enough machine from the TR-8S that I wasn't able to pick it up and just dive in deeply right away. It's easy enough to figure out the basics and navigate around, but there's a lot of little things that will take time to learn still. As a performance or live tool there's a lot I really about the layout and how customizeable it is (colors, knob assignments, names, pad modes), but some of the writing aspects are a bit more involved than I was expecting. That's not a bad thing, it just means I need to crack the manual and spend a couple afternoons reading to make sure I'm getting the most of it. In many ways it reminds me of the MC505 on that front, in that you have to put in a lot of (mostly fun) work upfront to get it to a state where it becomes second nature to use. While the TR-8S has a LOT more menu diving than the 707, it's a bit more intuitive to program too.

    More tomorrow, and I promise I'll read the manual more too :)

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    Fake News ?

    https://www.gearnews.com/roland-tr-x-and-mc-x-leak-are-you-kidding-me/

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @Jumpercollins said:
    Fake News ?

    https://www.gearnews.com/roland-tr-x-and-mc-x-leak-are-you-kidding-me/

  • KorakiosKorakios

    Sometimes it feels so nice with the iPad :)

    The new Fantom looks like a real upgrade, way expensive, but (the only?) decent upgrade

  • cronycrony

    Hi,

    I still wonder if the MC-101 or/and 707 are USB class compliant...and if it's just midi (I guess...) and audio ( and if it may act as a soundcard for the iPad, which would bother me in my configuration...)

    Any informations about that somewhere ?

    Thanks :)

  • cronycrony

    Hmm, seems the 101 does not recognize Program Changes !!!
    https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/MC-101_MIDIImpleChart_eng01_W.pdf

  • TarekithTarekith

    It's definitely not class compliant, I don't think any of Rolands gears is these days.

  • LiquidmantisLiquidmantis

    @crony said:
    Hi,

    I still wonder if the MC-101 or/and 707 are USB class compliant...and if it's just midi (I guess...) and audio ( and if it may act as a soundcard for the iPad, which would bother me in my configuration...)

    Any informations about that somewhere ?

    Thanks :)

    I can't at all speak to the 101 or 707, but in my limited Roland experience they tend to have two modes on their devices. One is "USB Setting: Generic" which provides just a class-compliant MIDI interface, and the other is "USB Setting: Vendor" which requires a driver but provides MIDI and audio.

    Roland puts all their manuals online though so it should be simple to find.

  • cronycrony
    edited September 2019

    @Liquidmantis checked all the manuals I could find, never mentioned it...But didn't say it didn't work either...

    @Tarekith did you test it ? Or is there a source somewhere to confirm ?

    I've opened a ticket and asked Roland's support to make 100% sure of all this...I'll post feedback here.

    Thanks :)

  • LiquidmantisLiquidmantis

    I just checked the reference manual and it doesn't look like the 707 has the different USB modes, just the regular mode and the external storage mode to allow access to the SD card.

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