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great! Thanks for the heads up!
That looks so good. I can't wait to get my hands on it.
Jonatan said he has updates around the corner for his other apps, also! Wonder what he's got planned there.
Woohoo...Frippertronics for the iPad!
Yes please!
@funjunkie frippertronics is doable with the current version. As well as in echo pad and loopy.
Thanks for the enlightenment @syrupcore. I'll have to see if I can dial those in.
Part of the frippertronics magic is to have feedback/drcay times of under 100%. Loopy only recently added that feature. Those decays should have some high roll off too which loopy can't do but makes up for it with twelve tracks! AB2 with multiple routes should allow us to use Echopad and aufx dub as two seperate delay loop devices. Can't wait.
I'm with you on being anxious for AB2! Are you ok if I pm you if I have questions on getting Frippertronics set up, so we don't hijack this thread?
@funjunkie27 said:
@funjunkie27 No, please do hijack the thread.. We might learn something inadvertently, by accident..!
Frip originally used two reel to reel tape decks spooled with one common reel of tape. Deck two played the signal recorded by deck one back into deck one, the delay being the distance separating the two machines, ranging from a few inches to several feet. The feed was blended back into new source recording with a mixer at a level below runaway feedback. I knew a band once that ran deck two at half speed so all delayed signals were in a process of slowing eventually to noise. Also people experimented with attaching multiple heads to the tape path (echoplex) on one machine. Eventually with digital delay the process was black boxed, limited by the memory of the box. Even today you rarely see delay times above 2 seconds, but the five seconds offered by AUFX Dub lends some potential for Frippertronic loop times.
I'm ok with that, but I'll defer to @syrupcore and others on this, since I'm not in a position to talk about it in much depth. I'm looking for answers too.
Had some fun today stunning guitarism with Frippertronics preset - and then adjusting the high pass filter on Aufx Dub... Got some cool almost wah wah type effects. Love it!!
Seems as good a place as any to discuss frippertronics stuff.
Pretty easy to get going. Just set a 2sec or longer delay time and set the feed back up above 80%. Play and hear all of your mistakes played back at you! Wait, that's probably just me.
Add low pass and a bit of warble will provide a bit of tape emulation and will make the new stuff you play live on too stand out a bit.
One hint: play fewer notes.
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That video and that interview, two of my newest favorite things. Thank. You. All.
Thanks for all the interesting Frippertronic stuff guys. I always wondered how it was done.
I think that video is later than the Revox period of Frippertronics because I didn't see any tape decks. Robert is using the Roland GR synth guitar not his Les Paul and the blue GR synth module is on the floor. It looked the amps were Roland JC-120s which is what he used in the 80's with the Discipline era King Crimson so that's my guess on when the video was filmed. Not sure what he's using for loops as I didn't see the two TC 1140 units that he would later use for Soundscapes.
One other aspect of live Frippertronics that hasn't been mentioned is once Robert had a loop bed created he would latch the loop and solo over the top of it which was not being recorded into the loop itself. Many live recordings of Frippertronics that were released only had the loop bed and didn't include his solo which would have required another tape deck though there are some recordings which do include his live soloing.
I haven't had a chance to play with the new version of AUFX Dub yet but I'm not sure there is a way to create a loop and leave it playing so you can solo over it without adding that to the loop. You'd need to turn off input going into the delay but leave the delay output playing while still hearing live guitar.
One looping technique I like to use is to adjust the amount of delay feedback level while looping with 100% feedback giving you full on looping and lowering this feedback causes the older things to fade away being replaced by the most recent events. This is a great way to have loops evolve over time and not just play the same static loop over and over.
Thanks for the tip @syrupcore. Fripping out!
@yowza: Yes, this can be done in AUFX:Dub too, by using the MUTE IN toggle. And I agree, leaving the feedback on less than 100% is a great way to make evolving loops. Also the feedback filters can be used to gradually turn the loop bed into a soft filtered background.
That strummer fripp interview is amazing.
Re: letting a loop go... Would be cool if there was a midi binding that was 'set feedback to 100 and mute delay input'.