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I got this foot controller to my M-Audio Oxygen Pro (49). The pedal is same brand. Now, to my disappointment it only works as switch for sustain: on/off. Is there a script already or can one be made to change this pedal into something more useful, like having all values between 0-127-0 and assigned to whatever I want. The screenshot is from AUM showing what it can do now😭
How is the MIDI reaching your iPad? If whatever the pedal is plugged into responds with just those two values, you have to change settings on the device itself unless the pedal has a switch that toggles between continuous values and on/off behavior.
It's a tele plug into the back of the Oxygen. No switches on the pedal (except a brand selector, M-Audio or Other). To even call it a pedal when it's just an on/off button, I really don't understand this. Thanks for your reply though
If the Oxygen is only sending on and off -- no script is going to change that.
Is it an expression pedal or a sustain type pedal?
If it is a pedal that is designed to send more than on/off check to see if your Oxygen has another pedal input. My MIDI controllers have different inputs for expression pedals and sustain pedals.
I'm afraid it's just the one, it's even called Sustain. There are an editor on desktop but I think I already tried that and it wasn't even included (no show). I might be wrong I'll check again later. I have a few BT foot-pedals from Airturn and I was hoping I could just use a button on those for sustain. Well, I still can but the pedal will be to no use at all ... (ankle exercise!?).
Anyway, thanks Ed, I think we'll leave it a this.
I have an Oxygen Pro 49 too. Don't think it supports an expression pedal.
I'm fairly sure AUM accept input from multiple sources? i.e. a synth and breath controller.
So the question here would be whether its possible to use the pedal as a MIDI input device.
The pedal itself doesn't send any midi. It's only an electrical switch that depends on a device that can generate midi from the electrical current change.
We're off topic here but if you want to spend your way out of the issue then perhaps get a Expression to USB converter.
https://beatbars.com/en/expression-to-midi.html
I haven't done this myself but as I have the same keyboard I've been thinking about it. My theory goes that I just plug this into a hub then I can control things like Swam expression through the pedal while playing a keyboard that doesnt support expression pedal.
Fwiw, iRig Blueboard has two ports for expression or sustain pedals and is only slightly more expensive than that device.
The M Vave Chocolate is quite a bit cheaper and I believe has an expression pedal port (@wim is that correct?)
Audiofront device for this is $59: https://www.audiofront.net/MIDIExpression.php
Tecontrol's is $70: https://www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-pedal-controller
I have the Tecontrol one, works well, and I know Audiofront is used by many people.
Couple of recent (I think) products, which I know less about, both are $45:
https://www.amazon.com/DOREMIDI-Expression-Converter-Expander-MPC-10/dp/B0BZ87CVJ7
https://www.amazon.com/midiplus-SPY-midi-petal-controller/dp/B07751921M
M-vave Chocolate looks like it would work, around $30:
https://www.amazon.com/MOWEO-Chocolate-Wireless-Controller-Rechargeable/dp/B0C5MHYJ15
Yes, you can plug in an expression pedal or foot switch and can customize the messages it sends.
Just to be sure it’s not confused in all the chatter - it doesn’t matter what you plug a switch into, it can’t act like an expression pedal, it can only toggle between on and off.
Yes, sorry, I missed that the OP my not have an expression pedal in the first place! But I'd be curious to hear if anyone is using an expression pedal through any of these interfaces in combination with a keyboard like the Oxygen 49 which only supports sustain.
hey guys,
can mozaic output midi data on its own without input?
yes this is easy. Mozaic supports a timer either synchronised with a beat or independent.
great! is there already a patch putting out random notes with the ability to choose timing?
lets say random C1 to C4 with mixed 1/8 and 1/16 notes?
perhaps something like one of these two.
Sounds easy enough to write a small script just for this too.
https://patchstorage.com/hypno-sequence/
https://patchstorage.com/clusters/
thanks mate, will try!
the second one need a trigger note
yeah should have paid more attention. Maybe the first one can be randomised rather than a step sequencer? Mozaic has a random function so maybe not hard to modify
The first one requires a trigger as well. It outputs one note at a time in response to incoming note. It doesn't do the part where you want it to output "mixed 1/8 and 1/16 notes".
I'm not clear on what you mean by that last part or I would whip up something real quick for you. It's not clear to me how you want the output to work and what control, if any, you want over it.
Have you considered Particles from the Rozeta Suite? It seems like it would come close to what you're after with the right settings.
Hello, I was looking for a Note-on/Note-off velocity remaper, to remap anything coming for example from 0 to 127 to a range between 30 to 100. It could have knobs to select the range top and bottom for each On and Off messages? Is that possible?
Sorry, it is a way to silly request, I think I can work it out from the MIDI filter templates already in the examples. Thanks anyway
Do you really want to remap the note off velocity? Keep in mind that note-off is often sent as a note-on with velocity 0 (which is valid and part of the midi spec)
Yes, I already did with this code, I will just look a way to add the knobs to make everything easier:
I need to remap Note-OFF because my keyboard already sends note off with it’s own velocity. And the SAWM Violin plugin reacts to it by making slides when a slow note-off is received (AKA when I release the key slowly), so I want to minimize the slides.
@OnMidiNoteOn
vel = MIDIVelocity
vel = TranslateCurve vel, 1, 50, 127
SendMIDIOut MIDIByte1, MIDIByte2, vel
Log {Changed velocity }, MIDIVelocity, { to }, (round vel)
@End
@OnMidiNoteOff
vel = MIDIVelocity
vel = TranslateCurve vel, 1, 50, 127
SendMIDIOut MIDIByte1, MIDIByte2, vel
Log {Changed velocity }, MIDIVelocity, { to }, (round vel)
@End
@OnMidiInput
// we handle note on separately,
// everything else can pass
if MIDICommand <> 0x90
SendMIDIThru
endif
@End
Has anyone ever whipped up a script to mimic the famous “marimba repeat” Townshend used to play the organ part of Baba O’Riley? From Keyboard magazine :
“ For example the following group of notes sound ON the beat when these keys are held F-G, B-C#, and these other notes G#- A#, D-E repeat off the beat creating the alternating pattern heard on Baba O' Riley.”
Is this something that would be easy for the mosaic magicians out there?
Is there a Moziac script for latching a note? I know there’s a Sustenuto script but it requires separate routings of CC or a pedal. I’m looking for one that simply latches the notes you play and let’s them drone on.
How would the notes eventually get turned off? It's bad, bad juju to leave hanging notes forever.
One option is to “off” a latched note when a new note on arrives. This creates a continuous stream of single latched notes.
Another option is to Hold a specific note until that note arrives the 2nd time. This is the toggle behavior that the AUM keyboard exhibits when HOLD is enabled. But the AUM keyboard provides a visual clue which notes might need to be turned off and a Mozaic script would make you remember so this could be a nightmare option.
I was updated probably add a MIDI Panic enable by some extreme note rarely used to turn off all notes.
The second option is exactly what I had in mind but without any indication of the last note played it’ll be a chore to turn them off. Midi panic could definitely work. But since it’ll mostly be for a single drone hopefully it wouldn’t be too hard to remember the note that pressed 😂
Doesn’t seem to be any solutions though. There’s one for Streambyter but it’s been hit and miss with me.
The second option would be easy to implement. Tracking the playing notes and then killing them in response to some action like tapping a pad would be easy too. I wouldn’t say midi panic would work “for sure “. Many synths don’t respond to it.
I can’t help but ask though - how is this different than good old midi sustain pedal on/off (cc 64)? That’s exactly what it’s for?