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is there an arpeggiator app that plays notes in pressed order?

nuno_agogonuno_agogo
edited November 2019 in General App Discussion

is there an arpeggiator app that plays notes in pressed order? just like the arpeggiator in garageband.

tried rozeta and polyarp unit already but no luck with those two. auv3 would be great because i'd like to use it within nanostudio 2.

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  • _ki_ki

    If there really is none - this sounds like an interesting side project i could do in easily in Mozaic 😀

  • nuno_agogonuno_agogo

    i believe rozeta and polystep unit are the only apps that come as auv3. at least as far as i know.

    i was thinking of mozaic, too. but i just started to scratch the surface with it. so i would very welcome you starting a little side project :smile:

  • MrBlaschkeMrBlaschke

    Ioniarics has an option to play in „order“.

  • nuno_agogonuno_agogo

    @MrBlaschke said:
    Ioniarics has an option to play in „order“.

    oh yes, that looks like just it. wonder why the app store search did not come up with that app?!?

  • wimwim

    Looking forward to this! @_ki's little "side projects" outshine even my best efforts. :D

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @MrBlaschke said:
    Ioniarics has an option to play in „order“.

    This app does what you describe perfectly.

  • wimwim

    @nuno_agogo said:

    @MrBlaschke said:
    Ioniarics has an option to play in „order“.

    oh yes, that looks like just it. wonder why the app store search did not come up with that app?!?

    Funny. I usually wonder why the app store search actually comes up with anything meaningful when I search.

    Worst. Search engine. Ever.

    Back on topic ... great find @MrBlaschke! I think I need this.

  • nuno_agogonuno_agogo

    just bought Ioniarics. took me a little while to figure out how to use it just as a simple arpeggio but it works great now. also great to know it can do much more interesting polyrhythmical stuff.

    thanks @MrBlaschke !

  • nuno_agogonuno_agogo
    edited November 2019

    still playing around with Ioniarics. looks like 100% of chance (A %) only gives you 99%. notes are swallowed every now and then.

    @pagefall: is that the wanted behavior?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    The arpeggiator built into many Virsyn apps use the order that fingers are placed on the keys. I think LayR's does also.

  • _ki_ki
    edited November 2019

    < side-quest started >
    The In-Order ARP Script will

    • In-Order ARP all active notes (from all channels, so MPE input should work)
    • Update active notes during play, so one can release hold notes and add new ones to the ARPed set
    • Arped notes use their original channel and note velocity
    • Midi Through all CCs, ATs, PBs on all channels
    • Handle Double-NoteOn/NoteOff
    • Allow to select note divisions by upto 15 pads: 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32 ? plus triplets and dotted divisions
    • Allow to select gate length 10-99% of note division with a GATE knob
    • Allow to switch off the ARP by selecting an ARP OFF pad
    • State-Save the current setting (division, gate-length and on/off-state)
    • Probably offer automation via AU parameters user0 (on/off), user1 (divisons) and knob0 (gate length)
    • Offer a help screen showing instructions toggled by HELP knob
    • If a hold note is released and that note is currently played in the arp, the note will stop immediately
    • In-Order ARP will not add notes of other octaves as other ARPs would do, as this defies the 'in order' aspect.

    Right now i'm in the initial concept testing phase to find the best way to manage the active note/channel/velocity-list and to play the arps in sync. If my ideas work out smoothly, expect a release after the weekend :)
    Most of the other topics were dealt with in previous projects, so the implementation is straight forward and just need to be typed and tested.

    .

    BTW: My script only handles a minor side aspect of what Ioniarics offers, so publishing it should not harm the app. The OP nevertheless bought Ioniarics :)
    With Ioniarics you get cool polyrythmic ARPs with support for different play modes, accents, velocity modifications, note probabilities and snapshots.

  • nuno_agogonuno_agogo
    edited November 2019

    @_ki said:
    < side-quest started >

    great! what else can we get you fixed on? :smile:

  • onkeyonkey

    @espiegel123 said:
    The arpeggiator built into many Virsyn apps use the order that fingers are placed on the keys. I think LayR's does also.

    Seems Addictive Pro is available as a midi source in AB3 so you could point the built-in arpeggiator to any midi receiver app. AP is a beast and this makes it even more valuable. Thanks for the heads up!

  • rs2000rs2000

    Can ArpBud do this?
    There's no manual and no details on keybudapp.com.

  • hellquisthellquist

    @espiegel123 said:
    The arpeggiator built into many Virsyn apps use the order that fingers are placed on the keys. I think LayR's does also.

    LayR can do this too yes.

  • CracklePotCracklePot

    @rs2000 said:
    Can ArpBud do this?
    There's no manual and no details on keybudapp.com.

    I don’t think so.
    Only Up Down Up/Down and Random as choices.

  • _ki_ki

    < side-quest ended >

    I just published the In-Order ARP script on patchstorage.

    It took a bit longer than anticipated - , but for that I added some more nice features and (hopefully) tested everything thoroughly :)

  • nuno_agogonuno_agogo

    @_ki said:
    < side-quest ended >

    I just published the In-Order ARP script on patchstorage.

    It took a bit longer than anticipated - , but for that I added some more nice features and (hopefully) tested everything thoroughly :)

    this is totally awesome!

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @nuno_agogo said:

    @_ki said:
    < side-quest ended >

    I just published the In-Order ARP script on patchstorage.

    It took a bit longer than anticipated - , but for that I added some more nice features and (hopefully) tested everything thoroughly :)

    this is totally awesome!

    Yes, very much agree!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @nuno_agogo said:

    @_ki said:
    < side-quest ended >

    I just published the In-Order ARP script on patchstorage.

    It took a bit longer than anticipated - , but for that I added some more nice features and (hopefully) tested everything thoroughly :)

    this is totally awesome!

    Yes, very much agree!

    Yep awesome!

  • iamspooniamspoon

    Really great implementation and design. Thanks @_ki

    Is there a way to hold notes or is there a Mozaic script that anyone knows of to act as a hold pedal?

  • _ki_ki
    edited November 2019

    @iamspoon I remember doing such a script, but didn't find it on patchstorage :)

    Looking through the list of StreamByter scripts and list of Moazic scripts, i came up with two StreamByter scripts. BTW StreamByter is a free app now.

    • AutoHolder : Hold all played notes until they are released either with the 'Release' button or via a release CC
    • SustainNotes : Delay note-off‘s depending on sustain pedal, with support for MPE input

    Maybe i should port my SustainNotes over to Mozaic and add some more features to spice up the scripting work B)
    Just did a mockup - that looks so empty with just one pad labeled HOLD. I don't know what feature to add to make use of some buttons or the XY area. I am unsure if adding rhytms (for instance like in the McOrchestra) would be feature bloat and distract from its main purpose

  • brambosbrambos

    Awesome script!

    Btw. Mozaic has @OnPedalDown and @OnPedalUp events specifically to make handling sustain pedals easier.

  • cuscolimacuscolima

    Beautiful script, thanks for this !

  • AlfredAlfred

    @_ki said:
    Just did a mockup - that looks so empty with just one pad labeled HOLD. I don't know what feature to add to make use of some buttons or the XY area. I am unsure if adding rhytms (for instance like in the McOrchestra) would be feature bloat and distract from its main purpose

    I also get that feature creap feeling when thinking what to do with all the knobs. Sometimes I wish there was a interface like the mt32 had.

    By the way Bryan has made a sustain script, and I have made a sostenuto script.

  • _ki_ki

    @Alfred Yeah you are right about the two scripts - i now found them in the 'Controller Scripts' section of the wiki, i only looked at the 'Notes Script' subsection where i classified the StreamByter scripts.

    The best classification is of no use if the entries are sorted incorrectly and even the librarain doesn't find anything 😅
    I will fix that ASAP, the controller classification fits a lot better...

    .

    And since there are already four scripts, i'm lucky and don't have to add my own
    .

    I always start with a clean layout - all labels and headers empty, all knobs at position 0, XY at 0/0 - that helps a bit against the urge to use all of them.

  • bleepbleep
    edited November 2019

    Great script, @_ki, thanks for the MPE support as well. One can probably get some interesting results by adding the CopyCat script after the arp, have a @_ki -themed jam :smile:

  • iamspooniamspoon

    @_ki @Alfred thanks! I also missed these entries when I first looked on the wiki.

    I used your sostenuto script to enable me to use pitchbend up on my controller as a pseudo hold pedal.
    (Pretty cool!)

    Thanks for creating and sharing these things with us. <3

  • ThinAirXThinAirX
    edited August 2020

    I'm struggling to get sostenuto to work. There isn't any help or instructions in the script. I tried stuff, but no luck. The labels are pretty cryptic, which I know is typical of Mozaic. But I need at least some clues to go on. Can anybody help me, or point me to instruction?

    I have some experiencing implementing Mozaic scripts, including four instances of _ki's As-Played Arp, which is a major piece of my setup now.

    I'm driving it with a regular sustain pedal currently sending CC64 on channel 2. Hosting in AUM.

    Thanks,
    Steve

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