Atom responsiveness ??

Samu · June 2020

@Gavinski said:
When I record midi into atom from photon AU, all the notes come out with very short length values in Atom. They lose all the sustain. Could anyone guess as to why this is happening and what I can do about it? Not very familiar with this app yet, thnx a lot

This could be cause by an unintentional midi-loop?

I experience similar issues if I for example use Atom to sequence Model D and use the Model D keyboard to record notes into Atom, since Atom Is feeding the notes right back to Model D the events become very short. If use the AUM built-in keyboard as input to Atom and output the notes to Model D there's no issues with short notes...

RajahP · June 2020

@blueveek said:

@iamspoon said:
Is it possible now (or in next update) to set the loop point start as well as end?

Yup in the update.

I guess that update never came... Such a great essential program.... Please update... Will Pay..

Gavinski · June 2020

Thanks @Samu , is there something wrong in the way I’m doing it then? I’m just pressing play in the transport (AUM), then pressing record in Atom and recording one pass of an 8 bar loop from photon into AUM. Photon’s midi is routed into Atom, Atom’s midi is routed to an instrument.

Gavinski · June 2020

I’m doing this because I keep getting weird loud blips in Photon, can’t figure it out at all, I really wish Anthony was responding to emails / messages.

Samu · June 2020

@Gavinski said:
Thanks @Samu , is there something wrong in the way I’m doing it then? I’m just pressing play in the transport (AUM), then pressing record in Atom and recording one pass of an 8 bar loop from photon into AUM. Photon’s midi is routed into Atom, Atom’s midi is routed to an instrument.

Don't have Photon installed at the moment but I recall it had an option to set default gate-times for all recorded notes.

There was something about Photon that really drove me nuts and made me delete it but I can't put the finger on it at the moment, it was quite some time ago...

Gavinski · June 2020

I don’t think that could be relevant because i have no issue with stuff recorded into it, only with stuff loaded into it. And it plays back fine, note lengths seem ok except for these occasional aberrations. Really perplexing.

rs2000 · June 2020

@Gavinski said:
When I record midi into atom from photon AU, all the notes come out with very short length values in Atom. They lose all the sustain. Could anyone guess as to why this is happening and what I can do about it? Not very familiar with this app yet, thnx a lot

Please replace Atom by an AUv3 MIDI monitor and check the incoming note on and note off messages (coming from photon) with timestamps.

Gavinski · June 2020

Good idea. There are a few HUGE spikes here. Do you see anything abnormal? @rs2000 thnx for trying to help

Samu · June 2020

Could it be the fact that Atom doesn't record any CCs that is causing the problem?
I mean the damper pedal is used and since it's not 'recorded' into Atom it can behave a bit strange...

Gavinski · June 2020

Damn, that’s probably it, what a pain...so using xequence is the solution maybe?

Gavinski · June 2020

Does photon also not record cc messages? Because the spikes are happening in photon and looking at it now, the spikes look likely to coincide with damper messages. I don’t think this is the problem in atom, as it is making all the notes short.

Samu · June 2020

@Gavinski said:
Does photon also not record cc messages? Because the spikes are happening in photon and looking at it now, the spikes look likely to coincide with damper messages. I don’t think this is the problem in atom, as it is making all the notes short.

Usually when playing with a damper/sustain pedal the note durations are short since the finger is lifted and not left on the key. Some apps adjust the visible note-length based on available pedal information while others do not.

So I guess in Atoms case since the Note On/Off comes at very short intervals it creates the short notes and since no information of any pedal is recorded it is what it is.

Sometimes the sound producing app can behave strange too if polyphony is exceeded etc. etc.

Do you get the same kind of 'issues' if you use for example Cubasis to do the sequencing?

ecamburn · June 2020

Lol. @Samu how do you know all this shit? You’re like a walking library. 🙂

Samu · June 2020

@ecamburn said:
Lol. @Samu how do you know all this shit? You’re like a walking library. 🙂

Side effects of extreme geekery...
...when things don't work I have to find out why to keep my sanity, sometimes I succeed sometimes I don't

Gavinski · June 2020

Hahaha, I know, man you know the craziest shit! I'll try this in cubasis or something. Thanks for being such a font of knowledge Samu

CracklePot · June 2020

@Gavinski said:
Hahaha, I know, man you know the craziest shit! I'll try this in cubasis or something. Thanks for being such a font of knowledge Samu

@Gavinski in Photon you can specify if you want to record just notes, notes + CC, or all.
Not sure if it will help with imported midi, though.

espiegel123 · June 2020

@Gavinski said:
Does photon also not record cc messages? Because the spikes are happening in photon and looking at it now, the spikes look likely to coincide with damper messages. I don’t think this is the problem in atom, as it is making all the notes short.

Photon records all midi, not just notes.

Gavinski · June 2020

Thanks Ed, yes, as I said earlier it must do, as it does mpe right out of the box.

@CracklePot didn't notice those options for imported stuff. Good to know it has those options for recording though. Anyway, it looks likely that the problem is a bug in photon, just need to wait for a hopefully prompt fix!

mlau · June 2020

@Samu 👍

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