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Bark filter tripleband alternative multi band mastering auv3

I typically use bark filter tripleband preset as a beautiful mastering solution however I am finding it will not function properly within the current version of zenbeats

Can anyone else recommend a multiband compressor/mastering plugin that does as good a job as Bark for finalizing/balancing out mixes?

Comments

  • Not yet but thank you!! How does it compare to the tripleband preset in bark filter for mastering?

  • @annahahn said:

    Not yet but thank you!! How does it compare to the tripleband preset in bark filter for mastering?

    Unlike the Tripleband preset, this needs tweaking.

  • Try one of the Visual EQ's from @Blue_Mangoo, ToneBoosters, 4 Pockets, or (wait for it) Fab Filter - the
    King of Desktop Mastering tools. EQ's are your friend.

  • @McD said:
    Try one of the Visual EQ's from @Blue_Mangoo, ToneBoosters, 4 Pockets, or (wait for it) Fab Filter - the
    King of Desktop Mastering tools. EQ's are your friend.

    +1 I used to not take EQ’s seriously enough and am grateful that’s not the case anymore

  • You could output from Zenbeats without BF, then apply BF to that file in AUM or whatever as a separate, final stage.

  • I used a chain of the Fabfilter Multiband followed by the Fabfilter Limiter on my last song and was very pleased with the result.

  • @drez said:
    I used a chain of the Fabfilter Multiband followed by the Fabfilter Limiter on my last song and was very pleased with the result.

    I've found MultiBand to be really useful for dialing in a great mix. I would never have bought it without the bundle to be honest and it's one of my favorite FF apps. It makes sense that a targeted, precise multi-band compressor with a visual UI would help tune a mix to sound great if the music is hiding in there.

  • I took a shot using the @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ (which is a Visual EQ product too):

    These are my 7 @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ settings:

    low freq cut: 37 Hz
    low shelf freq: 100Hz gain: +5 dB Q:1 (default)
    bell 1 freq: 260 Hz gain: +13 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 2 freq: 800 Hz gain: +9 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 3 freq: 3500 Hz gain: +5 dB Q: .71 (default)
    high shelf freq: 2000 Hz gain: +8dB Q: 1 (default)
    high freq cut: 14000 Hz

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    These Visual EQ products have given me a clue why FabFilter is the King of Mastering.
    With precise tuning of the Q parameters you can focus down to a individual note. It's an audio scalpel.

  • @McD said:
    I took a shot using the @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ (which is a Visual EQ product too):

    These are my 7 @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ settings:

    low freq cut: 37 Hz
    low shelf freq: 100Hz gain: +5 dB Q:1 (default)
    bell 1 freq: 260 Hz gain: +13 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 2 freq: 800 Hz gain: +9 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 3 freq: 3500 Hz gain: +5 dB Q: .71 (default)
    high shelf freq: 2000 Hz gain: +8dB Q: 1 (default)
    high freq cut: 14000 Hz

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    These Visual EQ products have given me a clue why FabFilter is the King of Mastering.
    With precise tuning of the Q parameters you can focus down to a individual note. It's an audio scalpel.

    Thank you for this. Seriously, thanks.

  • @Samflash3 said:

    @McD said:
    I took a shot using the @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ (which is a Visual EQ product too):

    These are my 7 @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ settings:

    low freq cut: 37 Hz
    low shelf freq: 100Hz gain: +5 dB Q:1 (default)
    bell 1 freq: 260 Hz gain: +13 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 2 freq: 800 Hz gain: +9 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 3 freq: 3500 Hz gain: +5 dB Q: .71 (default)
    high shelf freq: 2000 Hz gain: +8dB Q: 1 (default)
    high freq cut: 14000 Hz

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    These Visual EQ products have given me a clue why FabFilter is the King of Mastering.
    With precise tuning of the Q parameters you can focus down to a individual note. It's an audio scalpel.

    Thank you for this. Seriously, thanks.

    Just learning to implement these settings on one of the Visual EQ's will show you how to
    dial in a great sounding mix "to taste". The Pro trick is have a great set of monitors or cans.
    These Visual EQ's also show the music in a spectrum analyzer like display.

    Still, BarkFilter set the standard for me to "tweak" towards.

  • @McD said:

    @Samflash3 said:

    @McD said:
    I took a shot using the @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ (which is a Visual EQ product too):

    These are my 7 @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ settings:

    low freq cut: 37 Hz
    low shelf freq: 100Hz gain: +5 dB Q:1 (default)
    bell 1 freq: 260 Hz gain: +13 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 2 freq: 800 Hz gain: +9 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 3 freq: 3500 Hz gain: +5 dB Q: .71 (default)
    high shelf freq: 2000 Hz gain: +8dB Q: 1 (default)
    high freq cut: 14000 Hz

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    These Visual EQ products have given me a clue why FabFilter is the King of Mastering.
    With precise tuning of the Q parameters you can focus down to a individual note. It's an audio scalpel.

    Thank you for this. Seriously, thanks.

    Just learning to implement these settings on one of the Visual EQ's will show you how to
    dial in a great sounding mix "to taste". The Pro trick is have a great set of monitors or cans.
    These Visual EQ's also show the music in a spectrum analyzer like display.

    Still, BarkFilter set the standard for me to "tweak" towards.

    I did my best in replicating it using the free plugin LRC 5. Adding it via AudioBus made my sound a lot richer.
    http://preset.audiob.us/uBSI0kPnVNuooH4

  • @Samflash3 said:

    @McD said:

    @Samflash3 said:

    @McD said:
    I took a shot using the @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ (which is a Visual EQ product too):

    These are my 7 @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ settings:

    low freq cut: 37 Hz
    low shelf freq: 100Hz gain: +5 dB Q:1 (default)
    bell 1 freq: 260 Hz gain: +13 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 2 freq: 800 Hz gain: +9 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 3 freq: 3500 Hz gain: +5 dB Q: .71 (default)
    high shelf freq: 2000 Hz gain: +8dB Q: 1 (default)
    high freq cut: 14000 Hz

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    These Visual EQ products have given me a clue why FabFilter is the King of Mastering.
    With precise tuning of the Q parameters you can focus down to a individual note. It's an audio scalpel.

    Thank you for this. Seriously, thanks.

    Just learning to implement these settings on one of the Visual EQ's will show you how to
    dial in a great sounding mix "to taste". The Pro trick is have a great set of monitors or cans.
    These Visual EQ's also show the music in a spectrum analyzer like display.

    Still, BarkFilter set the standard for me to "tweak" towards.

    I did my best in replicating it using the free plugin LRC 5. Adding it via AudioBus made my sound a lot richer.
    http://preset.audiob.us/uBSI0kPnVNuooH4

    Nice! Free is always a good option. I was broke for many, many years and perfected finding and using free software to keep me amused.

  • @McD said:

    @Samflash3 said:

    @McD said:

    @Samflash3 said:

    @McD said:
    I took a shot using the @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ (which is a Visual EQ product too):

    These are my 7 @Blue_Mangoo Parametric EQ settings:

    low freq cut: 37 Hz
    low shelf freq: 100Hz gain: +5 dB Q:1 (default)
    bell 1 freq: 260 Hz gain: +13 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 2 freq: 800 Hz gain: +9 dB Q: .71 (default)
    bell 3 freq: 3500 Hz gain: +5 dB Q: .71 (default)
    high shelf freq: 2000 Hz gain: +8dB Q: 1 (default)
    high freq cut: 14000 Hz

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    These Visual EQ products have given me a clue why FabFilter is the King of Mastering.
    With precise tuning of the Q parameters you can focus down to a individual note. It's an audio scalpel.

    Thank you for this. Seriously, thanks.

    Just learning to implement these settings on one of the Visual EQ's will show you how to
    dial in a great sounding mix "to taste". The Pro trick is have a great set of monitors or cans.
    These Visual EQ's also show the music in a spectrum analyzer like display.

    Still, BarkFilter set the standard for me to "tweak" towards.

    I did my best in replicating it using the free plugin LRC 5. Adding it via AudioBus made my sound a lot richer.
    http://preset.audiob.us/uBSI0kPnVNuooH4

    Nice! Free is always a good option. I was broke for many, many years and perfected finding and using free software to keep me amused.

    Yeah. I do buy some software (although only on sale). I'm just trying to control my Gear Acquisition Syndrome by working with tools I already have.

    Speaking of, what would you recommend as a useful tool to understand EQ. I'm watching a few tutorials and I'm getting the concept of EQ, but I usually cut not add EQ. Your setting went over a wide spectrum (-24 to +13).

  • @Blue_Mangoo opened a whole new understanding of "tone shaping" using their "Parametric EQ" a youtube video. @Blue_Mangoo also documented some specific
    settings for a guitar amp model of John Mayer's guitar tone:

    Follow the instructions and you'll see that it's really moving 7 small dots to dial in a sound
    and setting either the GAIN or the Filter Q for the 7 dots.

    FabFilter Pro-Q2 and Pro-Q3 have a very similar set of controls for these concepts.
    They also make a Pro-MB that tweaks EQ but also adds Compression controls for each "dot".

    There are some very smart folks here and they share their skills and knowledge.

  • @McD said:

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    Can’t quite figure out what you mean here! Are you saying the Parametric EQ is better than Bark?

    Bark currently on sale and I’m wondering if it’s an EQ folks recommend... but can’t quite gauge whether y’all like it or not!

  • edited November 2021

    @Kashi said:

    @McD said:

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    Can’t quite figure out what you mean here! Are you saying the Parametric EQ is better than Bark?

    Bark currently on sale and I’m wondering if it’s an EQ folks recommend... but can’t quite gauge whether y’all like it or not!

    "Just put Bark Filter on anything and set it to Tripleband" seems to be one of those legendary Holy Grail mastering tips on the forum. Even if you don't use it for anything else (and there's more to it), it is still worth its price.

  • @ervin said:

    @Kashi said:

    @McD said:

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    Can’t quite figure out what you mean here! Are you saying the Parametric EQ is better than Bark?

    Bark currently on sale and I’m wondering if it’s an EQ folks recommend... but can’t quite gauge whether y’all like it or not!

    "Just put Bark Filter on anything and set it to Tripleband" seems to be one of those legendary Holy Grail mastering tips on the forum. Even if you don't use it for anything else (and there's more to it), it is still worth its price.

    Cool. A resounding thumbs-up then. Thanks @ervin !

  • @Kashi said:

    @ervin said:

    @Kashi said:

    @McD said:

    It took about 60 seconds to create a mix that I could hear as that much different between the Bark Filter and Parametric EQ.

    Can’t quite figure out what you mean here! Are you saying the Parametric EQ is better than Bark?

    Bark currently on sale and I’m wondering if it’s an EQ folks recommend... but can’t quite gauge whether y’all like it or not!

    "Just put Bark Filter on anything and set it to Tripleband" seems to be one of those legendary Holy Grail mastering tips on the forum. Even if you don't use it for anything else (and there's more to it), it is still worth its price.

    Cool. A resounding thumbs-up then. Thanks @ervin !

    That's, like, just my opinion, dude. :) Good luck with your decision.👍

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