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My external gear. And add loops directly to the timeline without loading them into Slate as i do now.
I have been fairly vocal around here about my Ns2 woes on my iPad Air 2.
But on my iPhone 11 it has been wonderful.
I can’t recommend it highly enough. Unless you want audio tracks obviously
+10000
And great track BTW with a nice mastery of your ecosystem
Many thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. It felt good using NS2 to sequence external synths...this is going to be a lot of fun now that i know the workflow.
I love apps that I can do that with, Auria Pro would be my Daw of choice if it could do that.
How do they compare in terms of MIDI exporting? I like the idea of being able to supply both MIDI and audio with any beats I might sell. I know I can do this with Xequence 2 driving AUM. Can NS2 do this?
Yes.
https://www.blipinteractive.co.uk/community/index.php?p=/discussion/115/midi-file-export
Thank you. I saw the second to last post there and was confused by the wording.
I think that was just confusion over how to do the export. I think tja was expecting to see an export function on the projects screen and didn't realize that you do the export from the tracks view. Select one track, get one in the midi file. Select many or all and get many or all in the midi file.
I can't say I've used that function much though. Maybe best to ask on the Blip Interactive forum, or ping @dendy here for more details.
it exports all selected not muted clips.. of course also tempo track..
if i was going to delete one from my ipad / iphone right now it would be ns2 not because it isn’t awesome, because in a lot of ways it is, but mainly because i prefer working in aum. for me having access to several effects/instruments all open at the same time, as well as an onscreen keyboard available from any screen, is a big part of how i like to jam. i do not work well when i have to keep jumping around screens to get to fx then back to the synth screen to press a key and hear it or to adjust a parameter on the synth after making adjustments to an fx... at the sound design level i want it all right there up front.. as if it’s almost hardware on a desktop ..
sequencing this set up is a breeze with xequence both 1 and 2 , im sure some will say but you don’twant to bounce back and forth from screen to screen and with xequence you have to do that, and you’re right, i do, however this is completely different as if i’m sequencing from aum into x2 via a midi fx like spa / fugue machine/ keys i can stay in my current view of aum and record single or multi track midi to xequence...if i’m in xequence playing on the keys or in the sequencer, ive already got everything to sound how i want it and i’m just creating the parts at that point. however switching back to the aum screen and having everything still in place os great...
i’ve adapted to the aum workflow and those that know what that means and/or prefer this set up should get familiar with xequence . trust me i’ve tried every sequencing app out there almost and they are all mostly just one part of what xequence has holistically.
if you prefer to feel like you’re in a more classical daw but with there ios daw drawbacks then ns2 is going to be perfect for you.
they are both priced out more than fairly and really both are worth picking up and using in different cases or even just for a change of pace. i still open ns2 and have a jam sometimes , it is pretty freaking cool at the end of the day and does a lot of things waaaay better than the daw like competition...also consider zen beats , that’s my fav dawlike app for ios simply because of audio and midi clip launching and the very strait forward workflow that even my 13 year old daughter was able to create a 4 part loop on 😎
And info about the Audio export options are pretty well laid out in the manual here: https://www.blipinteractive.co.uk/nanostudio2/user-manual/Project.html#mixdown
Thank you.
So it sounds like the audio track thing is the only limitation that would make someone not use NS2. Anything else major I’m missing?
AUv3 FX automation. No support for IAA plugins (no loss there, IMO), no Link Start/Stop (can work around with AudioBus), no MIDI clock slaving ... maybe some other stuff, I forget. Doesn’t get along well with some plugins. Some people report problems saving projects with certain plugins. Needs workarounds to record AU midi plugin output.
None are dealbreakers for me.
midi fx recording requires another app , i haven’t tried it as i don’t want that app so i’m not sure how it goes.
the on screen keyboard is not available from any screen except the synth screen... so you won’t be able to play with your instrument from the mixer screen or from the screen where you have your effects, so basically if you’re trying to dial in your reverb or delay effect for example you have to bounce back and forth from your effects app to the instrument screen to hear your change unless you have the midi recorded for some reason ( i don’t record midi until my sound is right) that to me just brings me back to using aum, i want to dial in my effects and have the synth exposed as well as the keys all at once for a seemless workflow... that to me is the only stuff i dont like about ns2 and what prevents me from using it everything else about the app is actually wonderful...
mixing and messing with stuff is easy if you recorded your midi before you got your sound right 🤣 but in all seriousness it is a great app and will probably only get better
I forgot about that one. The onscreen keyboard not being available is a bit of a pain unless you have an external keyboard available. Then it’s no problem at all.
I do my best to separate out composition and sound design phases, so this doesn’t bother me even without an external keyboard. But I can see how it would bother others.
I like to get a basic riff down with the default Obsidian patch. If I like it then I sculpt a sound to fit. Or if I’m inspired by a specific sound I’ll still write something into the sequencer and then tweak. I hate tapping a key with one hand and tweaking with the other. But that’s me. 😆
Ugh, sounds like something I’ll just need to buy someday and try it out.
a quick how to record midi fx from aum into xequence
this allows the freedom of aum (and should work with ab, haven’t tried it) with the powerful sequencing / editing of xequence . and you can still use all those dope auv3 sequencers like spa, fugue, rozeta, aphelion, stepbud ...and arrange all those jams/app dabbles into full sequences / songs
super simple
Watching all discusions about NS, most people are talking just about Obsidian or sequencer - but bundled in FXs deserve to be mentioned too - in terms of quality they can easily replace 90% of AUfx without compromising quality but with significant CPU efficiency increase... Reverb, Waveshaper (saturator/overdive/distortion) are extremely good, Limiter and Compressor belongs to best available on iOS - very VERY transparent, almost surgically, very nice sounding chorus/phaser/flanger, very good exciter, also stereo delay is nice, good bitcrusher...
I agree but I never mentioned that because people who use their stuff intensely will find out anyway. But it's fair to say that you can't do everything - try modulating the delay time by an LFO. 😉
You can, but you have to have it set to seconds and not synced 😉
Yes, and now please listen to it 😉
Does it sound like a chorus/flanger or rather like a bit-crunching stone mill?
Not sure what you mean? It’s modulating the delay time here.
Ns2 plugins are nice and all but the descriptions of ‘surgical’ and ‘transparent’ are true. They’re not exactly oozing character.
As bread and butter built in fx they do the job they’re supposed to.
But if you want to add colour and character, you’ll be wishing you could use some of your auv3s.
@rs2000 Ah, maybe not. I was stabbing at the keys randomly and had the feedback up high, so was just doubling up. Pretty sure this worked in the past (beta)
I will pass this on
Good idea, thanks!
It seems to be modulating the pitch of the delayed portion strangely too
Regarding delay time modulation - i made one patch in factory which is using delay time modulation , check it, it's named "PsyDelay"
Yes, but I don’t believe the pitching to be normal behaviour