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I invested in stagelight and got screwed union
Getting those emails about transferring my stagelight credits to zenbeats.
But its not supported in my country.
Its bloody annoying they just ditched their supporting customers, i should be getting an email that i get my credits payed back, cause zenbeats not suppprted in my country. In a fixed world.
Anyone else?
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That does suck - but Stagelight does still work at least.
Yep!... Me too.. Still not in Cyprus iTunes, but Stagelight did, so did the other Roland apps.. Just not this one.. Which means if Stagelight breaks.. We are screwed, as no further updates will be made for it.. I did vent gave hint to the dev on another Zenbeats page here.. Got sweet FA response... But it is in Greece..
Pure Acid app will be my last purchase on iOS.. For the mean time.. I’m not pumping no more money into this format no more like I used to.. I don’t need to.. Ive been lucky with the music.. But I will only support a few Dev on iOS now.. Maybe?... It’s not because of the Roland thing.. If it suddenly updates to it one, then great, but I’m pissed of wasting money for nothing into Apple apps.. It’s not good enough for full production work.. The iPad is not powerful enough.. There.. that’s my rant done... Now off to continue with a 58 Channel project, which is only spiking 30% on cpu.. with Waves plugs & Fabfilter installed in each channel.. A little bit of Jazzy Soulful House..
Stagelight will be discontinued on the 1st of january 2020...I have received the email and fortunately everything went well to transfer my purchases
Same here. Had high hopes for stagelight, but (conspiracy theory) Roland grabbed it to make software look inferior to their hardware.
Actually I’ve had a few Roland devices over the years that could have aged well if they didn’t just abandon updating the firmware as promised.
I have the same issue, my Appstore is in Argentina and Roland left my country off the list.
I also received several emails, and today in the middle of a rant I answered asking if they were joking or what... I know nobody will read it, but I’m so pissed off by this situation that I couldn't resist. I had high hopes on Stagelight and its future development, but it seems I just threw my money to the trash. Thank you Roland.
Totally agree with you... It’s sad, as I’m a big Roland fan.. Ever since the 1980’s.. Stopped buying there Hardware after the MC 909.. I still cannot fathom there logic in business.. There innovations are ahead of the rest.. But then they stop production, when bugs need fixing.. Korg, ect don’t.. They fix things & iron out problem.. Not give up.. Its because of Roland we lost Rebirth on iOS.. Hey Ho!.. ‘Tis what it is.. No good me moaning.. It a case of just stop buying from them, & go elsewhere.. & Just Monitor there new gear, & see the niggles to see if it get fixed or not.. Hence why I won’t get there new Groovebox.. Why spend a grand in cash, we Jim Audio Groovebox GR16 does almost the same for 10 euros.. & it’s always supported (one of the devs i will be always supporting)... Even if I’m not using iOS for projects at the time of when ever I have to use it..
I agree.
I’ve still got an MC-909 and it still cuts the “tails” when changing patterns an it’s midi clock is still -0.3bpm out of sync with it’s displayed bpm.
Why didn’t they just add sampling to the MC-505? That would have been awesome.
Wow. That is a massive, steaming pile of bullshit. Sorry.
Agreed.. Even bought SP808 for that, also for hardisk recording onto Zip Disk.. Another frigging waste of money..Zip Disk?... Yet again ahead of there time in innovations, but very bad support.... When Roland decided no more groove boxes, they fired all the engineers in that project.. They went onto to work for Motorola.. Then Motorola went up in popular demand.. I think “StarTak” phone was one of here designs?...
Has Roland said anything about why they don’t support some countries on this?
Updates shmupdates... the newest Roland hardware I own (JV-1080) is from a time when firmware (and software in general) was still so well-designed that devices didn't NEED firmware updates 😄
That was a great time for us when we would purchase gear that worked properly without false promises that they would fix the problems later with firmware updates.
I'm not sure about the conversion rates for those currencies, but it's reassuring to know that I'm not (yet) the oldest person on this forum 😉
Honestly, the reason why some countries can be excluded from the sale of an app remains a mystery to me. Moreover, even economically it is a loss. Mysteries and contradictions of globalization. Sorry for you guys, but actually, I don’t like zenbeats at all.
Me too.
What are we talking about?
Kidding
I forgot to transfer is it too late?
I had like 80% packs bought.
Original devs seemed pretty cool.
If you go really deep in Stagelight/Zenbeats, you will discover that it’s a full of bugs making it unreliable for finishing anything especially with AU stuff, and with unachieved features making it frustrating to use. It was promising, I had big expectations for it and spent lot of time on beta testing reports but honestly totally gave up some months ago.
A SHILLING!
Thruppence mate and grateful.
I bow down to the upper class of the industrialist of the Spinning Jenny... “Gawd Bless Ya Guv’ner!... & all those Work Houses... At least your keeping the children off the streets & off them orrid new tangled devil tablets, so now they can earn a honest crust, for a decent 18hrs days work!!.. Kids today!... They think life so hard?... I’ll tells ya!”...
Merry Christmas
I believe it is pretty straightforward setting up an Apple ID in a different country, as no payment details are necessary and ZenBeats is a free download. Why not do that? I agree it’s disappointing, but the devs aren’t responsible for Roland’s daft business decisions.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/create-a-second-apple-id-for-downloading-apps-in-other-countries/
@dpeace Every time you change to a different Apple id you loose all your downloaded music in Apple Music (among other nasty things), which in my case it’s about 6 GB. Additionally, it would require a credit card issued by a bank in the new country -something not possible for most people- so no new IAPs or sound packages would be available with this new Apple id.
I agree the devs are not responsible for Roland’s decisions, but that doesn’t help either.
Fair points, but you don’t need to change your Apple ID; just set up a new one for eg the US, log out of your active one, log in to the new one to download ZenBeats (which is free), transfer over your Stagelight purchases / activation then log back in to your usual Apple ID. Because the existing purchases are tied to your Stagelight / new Roland login, it doesn’t matter which Apple ID is logged in for ZenBeats to work.
I agree that you’re screwed if you want to buy further IAPs in ZenBeats, but this will work fine for downloading the new app and transferring across your existing purchases from Stagelight.
Only other caveat is that you’d have to log in to the new Apple ID from time to time to get updates to ZenBeats, but it seems a workable way to not lose your existing investment.
Missed your point about downloaded music, though - yes, I guess you’d need to redownload it once you’ve logged back in to your usual ID.
Well Roland released other apps on all iTunes stores, but not Zen beats.. Well, to me, I’m not gonna go down that road now.. F@#k Roland & Stagelight Dev.. I asked Dev for explanation.. & nothing.. I find that disrespectful.. All I wanted is explaining... If I got one, far enough.. But got nothing, even if it’s out of there power.... They could of said, & im ok with that... But now.... I Don’t need it.. We have better DAWs, & enough of them on iOS.... It hasn’t happened now, & I don’t think it will change tomorrow... So best we lay this animal to sleep, & move on... NEXT!...