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To Quantize or Not To Quantize, For Some That is the Question

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  • edited December 2019
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  • @Max23 said:

    i don't like these grooves.
    triplets get annoying pretty quick.
    and they only work in slow tempi otherwise way to busy

    yeah but albeit he's not playing funk, but I don't like funk fast anyway too many notes spoil the stew

  • edited December 2019

    @audiobussy said:

    Probably worth it to join some drum circles to get things going. And to listen to music outside of electronic genres...

    I went to a drum circle the other night with drummers from Senegal teaching traditional beats. I was on the cowbell playing the pulse and was expected to ‘be the computer’ to keep the tempo for everyone else.
    I love rhythm so often watch drum tutorials. I found this little gem from a drummer recently. Lesson starts about 12 minutes in

  • @sisterkate Sounds cool! I’ll check out that video. Here’s the one I (re)watched after my post:

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    There’s a huge difference between quantising programmed/sequenced music Like dance music and quantising a live audio performance such as a ‘real’ drummer or guitarist.

    If it’s a live drummer leave it live. He can play to a click to keep things on track but I don’t want the human element removed otherwise what’s the point in being a musician?

    Conversely a 909 sounds wrong unquantised we are used to hearing drum machine beats perfectly in time. (Or slightly wonky like a real 808. Groove is often good. :-)

    Quantising live performances can obviously also work but I don’t personally like it when it’s pretending to be live.

    However I do like a lot of stuff like NIN when the drums are Chopped up and quantised but they are deliberately machine like. They are not pretending to be played by a drummer.

    Anyway. The tools are there, they’re gonna be used and abused.

  • edited December 2019

    OK, I agree that "stupefyingly funky proportions" is one of these exaggerated clichés that people sometimes use to tell listeners how great their music is, but I don't agree that "quantized" equals "not funky".
    Groove is an important element in "funky" (whatever that is exactly) but it's not the only driver.
    There are lots of examples of perfectly quantized yet funky and groovy music.

    "Shuffle" in some sequencers is another example of perfect quantization, yet it can be used to achieve a different "feeling of groove".

  • I’d like to hear some examples of funky music that are quantized.

  • In general, as a genre, funk is not “programmed” in step sequencers. These are people who know how to play instruments.

  • @audiobussy said:
    I’d like to hear some examples of funky music that are quantized.

    Daft Punk?

  • Also, drummers in general don’t play to click tracks.

    And good time and feel does mean perfect, unerring bpm. Organic music breathes.

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  • @audiobussy said:
    @sisterkate Sounds cool! I’ll check out that video. Here’s the one I (re)watched after my post:

    yes very good and I really like the Bo Didley bass drum. He talks about listening, borrowing and adapting. After all music is a language a means of communication be it acoustic or electronic, and each generation adds to the vocabulary.

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