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Live with the iPad and OT

slicetwoslicetwo
edited December 2019 in General App Discussion

Had an OT for a while. Sold it, bought an iPad and tons of apps. I love the iPad tons and want to start using it live for generative ambient sets. I started a template in AUM with:

  • 8 channels of synths (4 Zeeon, 2 Ripplemaker, 2 varying)
  • 4 channels of Enso sends
  • 1 reverb send
  • 2 busses for 4 tracks each
  • a master
  • a bunch of MIDI generators (rozetta, fugue machine)

However, my 9.7 2018 iPad 128gb just is not powerful enough for this it seems. I get clicks and pops and apps closing down (which is to be expected I guess). It's making me rethink picking up an OT for this live show purpose.

My idea is to create a ton of loops in one key which I load onto the OT and mix and match and transpose. Then I send the 2 sets of outputs through the iPad in AUM with send FX, Enso loopers, as well as probably have a microphone and maybe Digitone going through, as well. I could also control the DN or one or two IOS synths internally or with my Novation Remote keyboard (which I'd also use to control AUM channels and such)

Then I could trigger sounds on the OT, loop them in AUM, fade them in and out for transitions, and add tons of ambiance and fx.

Some apps I have are:

  • Audiokit L7
  • AUM
  • Launchpad
  • BM3
  • Nanostudio2
  • Senode
  • Xequence 2
  • KB-1

I'd love to be able to also incorporate Samplr and Borderlands somehow.

Am I overthinking it? Is there a better way to do this without buying an OT and just the iPad and DN. Should I just get another (beefier) iPad and run them parallel to each other? I think it would be hard to justify a 2nd tablet and not a different piece of gear that has a different workflow.

Comments

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    Have you thought about a Synthstrom DeLuge? It does a lot that the OT can do, but without any time limit. It's a synthesizer, looper, sequencer, drum machine. Very versatile for live use.

  • slicetwoslicetwo

    @Pierre118 said:
    Have you thought about a Synthstrom DeLuge? It does a lot that the OT can do, but without any time limit. It's a synthesizer, looper, sequencer, drum machine. Very versatile for live use.

    I have. Buddy had one. Hated the layout and lack of screen. I need that visual feedback.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Same for me but iv settled to probably buying another ipad air 3 ( 64gb ) though, instead of a soma lyra or hardware units you describe. Tough call though as instead, there could be ios synths etc, a lyra, volca drum and modular and I do think the hardware alone seems like a good combo. I just think future drum machines will blow the volca away. Sort of basing everything around the potential sb DrumComputer. At the mo though it will cost about 500 pound just to have elastic drums on a full screen.

    I guess Id also like an answer. A single ipad, with a lyra ( or something the same cost ) plus volca drum and modular and midi bluetooth midi controllers.

    Or 2 ipad air 3 with bluetooth midi controllers and maybe still a lyra or just keep volcas.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Sort of like a screen plus a midi controller and synths on screen with a midi controller, will be more usable than hardware, even by tactile performance?

    Tactile performance plus effects on individual tracks would need to be apparant to win the case.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Sorry to take over your thread mate. Maybe my answers helped though.

  • auxmuxauxmux
    edited December 2019

    I'd advocate a second more powerful iPad for synths and audio. Keep this one for sequencing.

    Another option is reduce CPU load by using AudioLayer instead of synth AUs. Sample the AUs you like into AudioLayer. Zeeon is super resource intensive.

    I have very similar setup but limit myself to lower CPU synths or use AudioLayer like above.

  • slicetwoslicetwo

    @auxmux said:
    I'd advocate a second more powerful iPad for synths and audio. Keep this one for sequencing.

    Another option is reduce CPU load by using AudioLayer instead of synth AUs. Sample the AUs you like into AudioLayer. Zeeon is super resource intensive.

    I have very similar setup but limit myself to lower CPU synths or use AudioLayer like above.

    Cool cool. Have the new iPads fixed the audio issues yet? I'll have to look into AudioLayer. Could it run multiple instances with ease? I guess another iPad would mean another soundcard, though if I'm using my 9.7 for MIDI only I could just do with a MIDI interface.

  • auxmuxauxmux
    edited December 2019

    Yeah, I have run multiple instances of AudioLayer without problems. Bluetooth midi is also option for 2nd iPad if only used for sequencing.

    Not sure about new Pros. I'm still using 2016 Pro.

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