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thanks for doing that!
for some reason I thought that Unisonic was able to adjust in smaller increments than semitones. It seems that both unisonic and qvox won't do what I'm trying to do: harmonic pitch shifting in Just Intonation.
Eventide Quadravox for desktop does this and it's incredible. So does Harmony Eight by virsyn (although the pitch shifting isn't as smooth). Guess I'll be sticking with those.
No wonder that it sounds better, a steady synth sound is about the easiest to pitch-shift.
Try it with more percussive, rhythmic sounds.
@audiblevideo: Thanks for taking the time!
Here is a video :
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The warbly sound of Unisonic is great for dark, trippy chords for sure 😉
One thing I noticed - Unisonic is noticeably louder than QVox using default settings for both apps, even when just using four voices in Unisonic. I had to turn down the volume quite a bit in Unisonic to properly compare. I prefer the delay, panning, gain options and the basic sound of Unisonic, but might opt for QVox for busier compositions - it seems just slightly cleaner. Another thing - Unisonic is essentially chromatic, but QVox forces you into a particular scale which can be good or bad depending. Like them both, and glad to have them.
I think that JAX is MORE of a chorus and thickener than an absolute pitchshifter at least that's what all its other controls like the big dial in the middle tells me.
I like it, even if its a bit fizzier on the top end and not as crisp on the bottom than Qvox, it doesn't suffer from what I've seen with Qvox and its warble (which depending on the source and timing isn't always there).
How does it compare to Discord?
The Convoluter is still a click fest for me, and a cpu hog. I wonder if Jens is checking this work at various samplerates.... like 96k
If you instantiate multiple Discord’s ( to recreate the up to 8 voices of Unisonic ) utilising fine control for unison/detuning, you will get something similar. The cpu cost will be different though.
Unisonic is dedicated to this effect, uses less cpu, and sounds different.
I’ll echo audiblevideo’s thinking. Unisonic is a chorus/thickener, actually a multi-voice chorus/ensemble sound. I don’t think Jens is using delay/bbd, so technically not chorus ensemble like ensemble favourites Solina and MTI. guessing unison pitch shifting in cents, maybe with a short delay between each voice? Perhaps Jens would clarify? Probably doesn’t matter to most, so I’ll just say it sounds great.
I was using multiple choruses, multiple MicroPitch, and multiple pitch shifters to achieve this sound before the release of unisonic. Now iOS users have access to a lower cpu option for ensemble type effects.
The additional components in unisonic ( semitone pitch control and simple per voice delay ) are useful, but aren’t what the effect is about imo. I don’t even use those parts.
If you ( or other forum members ) need audio examples in addition to the audiblevideo and cuscolima examples, i’ll try. What application is best for posting wav/aiff audio examples to the forum? Dropbox?
Ignoring unisonic’s unison/ensemble part, which sounds amazing, and using the pitch shifters only ( for pitch shifting duties only - semitones and octaves), the QVox is much better. Better tracking, considerably less warble, and an algo that is designed specifically for harmonising. Unisonic’s purpose is different.
@frond
Thanks for this helpful info!
It’s different. Unison/ensemble effect. Though, can do some harmoniser effects as well.
Discord4 does 4 distinct mono pitch shifted voices, or 2 stereo ?
Two voices, each stereo. More voices means more instances of it.
The qvox and unisonic are very different and accomplish different processing goals.
QVox doesn’t allow for unison/cent tuning, so can’t do unison/ensemble effects.
Unisonic is not a diatonic pitch shifter, so can’t track your playing based on key/scale like QVox.
Thanks. Thought I might have missed four mono voices. Ensemble/unison needs at least three to sound right. Solina used three delays, MTI three, tri-stereo chorus three, Roland often used four, etc.
Oops, sorry, I was wrong. One voice left, one voice right. It's up to you how you're going to use the two independent pitch shifting channels.
For stereo, that means one instance per voice.
@audiblevideo @cuscolima thanks for posting!
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This developer definitely has a certain style of communication...
😃 well, maybe he wouldn't find a job in the public relations field and maybe his style is a little too direct, but he certainly isn't a hypocrite person, and he doesn't play puns. And this for me is a good quality in a man.
He was insulting on this forum of at least one respected developer who expressed disagreement with him about a technical topic.
I really like his software, but I don't love the aggressive and sometimes insulting tone he takes when he disagrees with someone.
Direct yes, but also wrong.
This being the case, it is certainly less fun. Too bad because i really like his apps.
Yes, he is coming off as pretty hubristic. We all know where that leads...
Yes, "dependencies between instances" is a really bad idea.
And
"now we want to teach these host developers"
Really?
well, insulting is always unfair, even when you're right, let alone when you're wrong.
If so, and I have no reason to doubt you, I can't find justifications.
So this is definitely not a quality I appreciate in a person.