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Gestrument vs Geoshred Control vs TC Data
Sale prices
Gestrument is 4.99
Geoshred Control is 6.99
TC Data is (No longer on sale) $20
I have an extra iPad that I can use to control the things on my main iPad.
Anyone have experience with any of those apps? I tried watching videos and that gave me some information.
Geoshred seems like the simplest. TC Data seems like you can really do a lot if you sit down and figure it out. TC Data comes with a lot of presets and has been around a while but I feel like it’s the least practical. Gestrument seems really cool but I never see anyone use it which worries me a bit.
So I didn’t realize TC Data wasn’t on sale anymore. I’d still like to hear about anyone who uses it. Thank you.
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They are totally different beasts that go about things in very different ways. So, comparing them doesn't feel like it makes sense. I really think you have to watch a bunch of videos to get a sense of what those apps due. You will find lots of discussion of TC-Data and Gestrument Pro on the forum archives. There are quite a few Gestrument Pro videos put there.
TC-Data is a very deep app for coming up with touch-based control schemes. It has a learning curve.
Geoshred Control is the most straightforward of the apps you mentioned. It is basically GroShred without the sounds for people that want a fingerboard type interface for controlling synths.
Gestrument Pro and TC-Data are deep and depth comes at a price. Gestrument Pro in my opinion is as much a composition tool as a performance tool.
Gestrument Pro at that price is shocking.
Would highly recommend jumping on that!
TC Data doesn't so much have a learning curve as one of those indoor climbing wall things! Straight up and hanging on by yer toenails.
Interesting. Very difficult to control. Depends what sort of sounds you're chasing - as always ... lends itself to "ambient" swirly harmonic stuff ... melody so far has proved beyond me. Possibly too deep and tries to do too much. Would be tops on a 23 inch touch screen.
It's worth trying TC Performer which last time I looked was free - see how comfortable you are with taking touch control to the max. Hard to whistle though.
Thanks for this. I never would have considered Gestrument, but looked into it when I read your post. I honestly feel that it’s the most interesting app I’ve bought this year by far. Well worth the price when it’s not on sale.
I love all 3, but Gestrument Pro... it’s just incredibly genius. $4.99 for this on sale is insane. I’m not sure why it hasn’t absolutely caught fire yet, though it should. It’s very powerful and can get pretty deep, but you can intuitively make/compose excellent compositions quickly with minimal learning curve to get started.
Geoshred is perfect, if you play guitar or bass.
TC Data and Gestrument are good for random generative music. But it's hard to play simple melody with them. Maybe I just didn't get it.
Gestrument can be as simple or complex as you desire.
Plenty of good tutorials out there and the in-app one is essential!
I find Gestrument Pro very "playable" too. Though, it makes me feel like a fraud... in that with the right instruments and even the slightest bit of musically motivated "playing", it can make me sound like I actually know what I'm doing.
TC Data isn't only good for random music. You can create straightforward surfaces (like included guitar-style one) , but the reason for getting TC Data is for creating deep control surfaces that provide for experiences not possible with standard controllers. It isn't something useful to everyone. But it is a tweakers delight.
Geoshred Control is the one I’m least familiar with: this thread made me give it a shot. I have to agree that it’s nice for guitar/bass players wanting that kind of note layout.
Time will tell, but at this point I suspect it might end up be caught between a rock and a hard place: as a simple, playable guitar layout grid with MPE support, I’m not sure it rivals the responsiveness of Velocity KB. Thing is, TC Data also happens to be phenomenal for (non-mpe) guitar style layouts that can also make use of all of an iOS device’s sensors (including gyro/accel, camera and pencil) and allow deep customization of touch behavior.
About TC Data, the amount of things it can do can definitely be overwhelming, and setting it up can be confusing at first. But it’s hard to overstate how intuitive and musical it ends up being to play, including for simple melodic material! (To get a feel for how playable and musical the interface can get, it helps to spend time with the factory patches in tc 11/performer too.)
I see where the above comment that it’s trying to do too much is coming from. E.g. I doubt the average has use for more than 5-10% of the ground covered by the factory patches (though interestingly, I’m pretty sure what 5-10% will vary a decent bit.) But to me the hurdle isn’t how the app works, and how much ground it (successfully!) covers. The hurdle is instead that the app doesn’t do a great job walking users through the patch design process, and there aren’t much resource introducing users to good workflow habits with it. (Gestrument Pro is the perfect example of how to do that pedagogical stuff well.)
I also fully agree with the above comments that where Gestrument shines is as a hybrid composition/performance controller. The dev describes it somewhere as focused on the musical DNA of notes/rhythm, and that hits the nail on the head. By contrast, TC Data’s strength is in turning customizable and intuitive (to play/perform) gestures into expressive musical and sound sculpting results.
Thanks, all. I bought Gestrument. I’m looking forward to getting to know how it works!
I appreciate all the insights. L