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Will a new ARP 2600 appear in 2020?

(If one does, bang goes the value on my now-fixed fully functional ex-Roger Glover ARP 2600 with the original 4012 filter).

We held a poll among the studio audience…
  1. Will whatever I said above, etc17 votes
    1. Yarp
      64.71%
    2. Narp
      35.29%
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Comments

  • No option for BARP?

  • Both Korg and Behringer have plans.

  • edited January 2020

    @knewspeak said:
    Both Korg and Behringer have plans.

    Yep this, you might see the korg one at namm

  • (Should’ve awarded extra points for getting the yarp/narp reference)

  • edited January 2020

    Korg coming out in feb 3200 quid or half a bit coin maybe

  • I’ve always wanted one, since missing out on one in a second hand shop here 30 years ago for a hundred quid. I’ve had a few software versions, but it’s not the same.

    One of these, and a Behringer VCS3 would do nicely.

  • I got the Behringer Odyssey a couple of days ago and have been really enjoying it. A 2600 would be very tempting if it’s priced right.

  • You mean like the value my refurbed Pro-One with Turbo Midi and semi-weighted Fatar keyboard? I think there is always demand for the OG version, but the market value is impacted by these reissues.

  • Sample & hold this:

  • A ton of middle aged balding men making R2D2 noises in 2020.

  • @[Deleted User] said:
    A ton of middle aged balding men making R2D2 noises in 2020.

    I'm aspiring to R2D2 fart noises.

  • edited January 2020

    @u0421793 said:
    (Should’ve awarded extra points for getting the yarp/narp reference)

    A Cornetto to the winner?? ;

    (i hope that answer wasn’t too ‘fuzzy’)

  • @klownshed said:

    @u0421793 said:
    (Should’ve awarded extra points for getting the yarp/narp reference)

    A Cornetto to the winner?? ;

    (i hope that answer wasn’t too ‘fuzzy’)

    B)

  • @Liquidmantis said:

    @[Deleted User] said:
    A ton of middle aged balding men making R2D2 noises in 2020.

    I'm aspiring to R2D2 fart noises.

    I’m aspiring to middle aged balding.

  • edited January 2020

    it is a beautiful piece of future too. Wow! if only I was a wealthy lord living in a country manor house this would be lying in the study room surrounded by plants, rare dusty old alchemy books and odd artifacts from around the world.

  • @u0421793 said:

    @klownshed said:

    @u0421793 said:
    (Should’ve awarded extra points for getting the yarp/narp reference)

    A Cornetto to the winner?? ;

    (i hope that answer wasn’t too ‘fuzzy’)

    B)

    "He's not Judge Judy and executioner! .... He's my Dad!"

  • edited January 2020

    By the way, here’s mine, with the 4019 VCA I built on veroboard using more modern components, but to the same original ARP circuit:




  • @u0421793 said:
    By the way, here’s mine, with the 4019 VCA I built on veroboard using more modern components, but to the same original ARP circuit:

    B) pics of the front?

    What are those things that look like Regurgitated Worthers originals?

  • @enc said:

    @u0421793 said:

    What are those things that look like Regurgitated Worthers originals?

    They’re hand-selected matched transistor pairs, clamped together with small copper strips, then glued, to form a thermal bond. I took several weeks matching a whole load of transistors before I had the job I now have. I’d pick a transistor from the batch, plug it into a test rig for measurement, walk out of the room and make a cup of coffee or something, about 20 mins later or sometimes a couple of hours later I’d then press the button on the transistor tester, then write down the result. This way I ensured there was no thermal residue from my handling the transistor when I inserted it into the tester socket, as that would affect the reading. After a month or so I ended up with the entire batch written down, and was able to get matched sets together.

  • @enc said:

    @u0421793 said:
    By the way, here’s mine, with the 4019 VCA I built on veroboard using more modern components, but to the same original ARP circuit:

    B) pics of the front?

    What are those things that look like Regurgitated Worthers originals?

    😂

  • edited January 2020

    If the Korg one has surface-mount transistor pair components (ie one silicon die with two transistors on it in one epoxy component) then this is a far more preferable way of ensuring consistency, as these single-component transistor pairs are inherently both matched and thermally bonded together.


    (like this, or smaller)

  • edited January 2020

    By the way i heard korg are only making a certain amount, if they stick to that claim is another thing.

  • @[Deleted User] said:
    By the way i heard korg are only making a certain amount, if they stick to that claim is another thing.

    That’d be true no matter how many they make.

    Unless they state what the intended certain amount actually is.

  • @u0421793 said:

    @[Deleted User] said:
    By the way i heard korg are only making a certain amount, if they stick to that claim is another thing.

    That’d be true no matter how many they make.

    Unless they state what the intended certain amount actually is.

    I heard they said like a batch of them but maybe they changes there minds.

  • edited January 2020

    I must say, though, this new one comes in a huge wheeled flight case (unlike the original). The synth itself is already built into a robust case of it’s own with a lid, the keyboard+lid is a bit wider than the synth. Mine occupies an area of the house I could certainly do with reclaiming. If I had to have that wheeled outer flight case hanging around somewhere, that’s an awful lot of space tied up doing nothing useful. Don’t underestimate how big these things are.

  • Oh and another thing. There’s in my opinion a good case to be made that the Odyssey (AKA the 2800) is actually the superior synth to this. The Odyssey has a high-pass filter (although not voltage controlled). It also has an LFO, and also a little sub-mixer for the input to the S+H, and that sub-mixer is available elsewhere as a mixed CV source. It also has a nice set of trigger arrangements for the ADSR and AR gens enabling it (among other things) to gate the LFO to trigger the env on keydown. All in a much more compact body. All for the sacrifice of one VCO (which was usually switched into LF anyway, the 2800 gives you it as a dedicated LFO). Admittedly the 2600 has a superb quadrature balanced analogue modulator (the ring mod), whereas the ring mod in an Odyssey is basically a handful of EX-OR gates, as the only input it can accept is square waves, and therefore it amounts to the same result in that case.

    Just trying to make people feel a bit better. If you want a 2600, maybe a 2800 is probably good enough?

  • @[Deleted User] said:
    it is a beautiful piece of future too.

    Lol that’s what I was thinking too, though it’s a little too clean for me, would probably send it to the Fender custom shop for a little relic job 🙄

  • @u0421793 said:
    Oh and another thing. There’s in my opinion a good case to be made that the Odyssey (AKA the 2800) is actually the superior synth to this. The Odyssey has a high-pass filter (although not voltage controlled). It also has an LFO, and also a little sub-mixer for the input to the S+H, and that sub-mixer is available elsewhere as a mixed CV source. It also has a nice set of trigger arrangements for the ADSR and AR gens enabling it (among other things) to gate the LFO to trigger the env on keydown. All in a much more compact body. All for the sacrifice of one VCO (which was usually switched into LF anyway, the 2800 gives you it as a dedicated LFO). Admittedly the 2600 has a superb quadrature balanced analogue modulator (the ring mod), whereas the ring mod in an Odyssey is basically a handful of EX-OR gates, as the only input it can accept is square waves, and therefore it amounts to the same result in that case.

    Just trying to make people feel a bit better. If you want a 2600, maybe a 2800 is probably good enough?

    Thanks man, yeah I do feel better now (I do have an Odyssey .. which I never use 🙄)

  • Hell of a demo here

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