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gear lust

edited January 2020 in Other

Off topic but maybe not. I go to gearslutz as well and have found this discussion fascinating. Thought it might resonate with some of you all. (These things show up every now and then.)

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1295745-when-satisfied-what-one-has.html

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  • encenc
    edited January 2020

    Bought a shit load of hardware in 2019 ... pretty much, that’s it now... (he said) having just pre ordered a yellow TD-3.
    Plan now is to spend more time in learning what I have... sound wise I’m pretty much covered for the type of stuff I do.

  • edited January 2020

    I have insatiable gear lust for trying out synths, however the easy solution in my case is to buy a synth on the second hand market, try it for a few weeks or even months, then decide to keep it or re-sell it. As it was purchased second hand in the first place then its resale value decreased little if nothing during this time. If a small loss is made on it then no big deal, I see it as paying a $30 or $40 rental fee to try a synth for a couple of months. If you're lucky and find a great deal on Craigslist you can even make a profit.

    Of course its not applicable to new synths, but you can do a similar thing if you purchase from a dealer with a good return policy. I pre-ordered the Hydra when it was announched, tried it for a few weeks, didn't like it, so exchanged it for a Wavestate. Cost me $17 for return shipping. I consider $17 rental fee to try a Hydrasynth for a few weeks to evaluate all the hype for myself a small price to pay.

    I still have insatiable gear lust, but doing this, instead of just accumulating loads of synths, I've learned you really do only need a few (in my case I seem to be gravitating to one of each type VA (Virus), one Analog (Deepmind, though haven't tried for example the Rev 2 yet), one wavetable (Blofeld, though going to also try the Argon) and one Sample (Wavestate))

  • @mungbeans said:
    I have insatiable gear lust for trying out synths, however the easy solution in my case is to buy a synth on the second hand market, try it for a few weeks or even months, then decide to keep it or re-sell it. As it was purchased second hand in the first place then its resale value decreased little if nothing during this time. If a small loss is made on it then no big deal, I see it as paying a $30 or $40 rental fee to try a synth for a couple of months. If you're lucky and find a great deal on Craigslist you can even make a profit.

    Of course its not applicable to new synths, but you can do a similar thing if you purchase from a dealer with a good return policy. I pre-ordered the Hydra when it was announched, tried it for a few weeks, didn't like it, so exchanged it for a Wavestate. Cost me $17 for return shipping. I consider $17 rental fee to try a Hydrasynth for a few weeks to evaluate all the hype for myself a small price to pay.

    I still have insatiable gear lust, but doing this, instead of just accumulating loads of synths, I've learned you really do only need a few (in my case I seem to be gravitating to one of each type VA (Virus), one Analog (Deepmind, though haven't tried for example the Rev 2 yet), one wavetable (Blofeld, though going to also try the Argon) and one Sample (Wavestate))

    This is all good stuff. However, I have acquired a boatload of gear this way. I have a hard time parting with the stuff. "But, honey, it can do this sound ...wwggrrrrrrruuuuuqqqqwwwww" (wife walks away)

  • It's definitely a problem for me. I just want to be able to make music with minimal hurdles. Technological problems, physical problems, digital problems, ergonomic problems, time problems...

    It's not a lust for gear for the sake of gear, but trying to figure out how to best operate.

  • Used to be that you could go to a music store and mess around with stuff. Now (around here) they are all gone mostly, and I don't have time to do that anyhow. This got me in the bad habit of buying before trying. Ah well. Lusting after sounds has become alot easier and cheaper on ios though.

  • I control my gear lust by reminding myself how many iOS apps I have, and how I haven't used them all.

    That being said, I have my eye on getting a Minilab or a Push or an Artiphon Instrument.
    Arrrrgh. Why do they have to make them look tempting?

  • edited January 2020

    I've got to the point where what I'm after now is just a more expensive version of what I already have, so I know it's not really essential (but of course I still lust after the stuff).

    So instead of my £300 Epiphone SJ200, I want the real thing, a £3000 Gibson S200 (like that will ever happen)
    Instead of a £200 Oktava mic I want a £2000 Neumann mic, instead of the £300 HD650s (and far too many other headphones) I want the £800 Focal Elear etc...

    I take some comfort that I already have the things I need to make music, and that paying 10x the price for a guitar will actually make diddley squat difference in the end.

    We're actually incredibly lucky that technology has got so cheap, to the point where you can make studio quality recording on an iPad with really cheap gear.

  • @richardyot said:

    We're actually incredibly lucky that technology has got so cheap, to the point where you can make studio quality recording on an iPad with really cheap gear.

    yep :)

  • edited January 2020

    i preffer term "GAS" - "gear aquisition syndrome". It's serious mental illness

    But i like it, don't want to be cured, spending spare money on expensive dust collectors is still better than spending them on booze, drugs and hookers :trollface:

  • @mungbeans said:
    I have insatiable gear lust for trying out synths, however the easy solution in my case is to buy a synth on the second hand market, try it for a few weeks or even months, then decide to keep it or re-sell it. As it was purchased second hand in the first place then its resale value decreased little if nothing during this time. If a small loss is made on it then no big deal, I see it as paying a $30 or $40 rental fee to try a synth for a couple of months. If you're lucky and find a great deal on Craigslist you can even make a profit.

    That’s a great way to get some hands on time with some amazing gear on the cheap. I’ve wanted to do this for a while, but it’s less convenient an option living out in the boonies here, a good distance from any cities.

    My only option would probably be reverb/ebay , which I’ve considered, but I always worry it’ll turn into a headache (damaged gear, scams, etc) .. It’s probably no where as risky as I make it out to be, but it still feels somewhat like playing russian roulette with my gear. ;)

  • @Eschatone said:

    @mungbeans said:
    I have insatiable gear lust for trying out synths, however the easy solution in my case is to buy a synth on the second hand market, try it for a few weeks or even months, then decide to keep it or re-sell it. As it was purchased second hand in the first place then its resale value decreased little if nothing during this time. If a small loss is made on it then no big deal, I see it as paying a $30 or $40 rental fee to try a synth for a couple of months. If you're lucky and find a great deal on Craigslist you can even make a profit.

    That’s a great way to get some hands on time with some amazing gear on the cheap. I’ve wanted to do this for a while, but it’s less convenient an option living out in the boonies here, a good distance from any cities.

    My only option would probably be reverb/ebay , which I’ve considered, but I always worry it’ll turn into a headache (damaged gear, scams, etc) .. It’s probably no where as risky as I make it out to be, but it still feels somewhat like playing russian roulette with my gear. ;)

    I just recently had my first piece of damaged gear in many years of using ebay/reverb. It was the seller's fault, as it wasn't packaged properly.

  • Either we shall find what it is we are seeking or at least we shall free ourselves from the persuasion that we know what we do not know.

    Plato

  • He who is not contented with what he has, would not be contented with what he would like to have.

    Socrates

  • I don't know personal situation of others but in my case Music was a shelter. I need it to diminish my stress level and producing was a collateral damage of that.
    The most I try to go somewhere with Music the less life let me make an step. To be fair it's not only with Music. Lately each single step has become a huge amount of energy going nobody knows...

    To back on topic, better or expensivier gear will not make our Music better but if that helps you in any way just do/buy it and walk on. Life is short and Music hardware/software development slow (and far for affordable or bugfree) so just focus on what's important for you and inside those priorities focus on how to be happy on your own. If becoming a gear tester (or ranting about that) is ok, doing it professionally could be a thing.

    In the end it's all we will get, what we are.

    Let me finish with an smile and trollface to hide my true feelings and keep the vibe up and humorous...
    :smiley: :trollface:

  • edited January 2020

    I went on a guitar pedal spree right before Christmas and spent about $1500 bucks on 8-9 pedals both new and used because all I had was a DD-500. And I felt a huge hole in my life (seasonal depression, to be honest). It was a fun month to shop around, watch a bunch of demo videos, stumble upon great deals, know I had something else coming in the mail every couple days, etc.

    A month later, I dunno what got into me, but I'm thankful it kept me distracted from that default low feeling that I had for no reason. It was a very shallow adventure, though. It's interesting to me that many people do this constantly throughout the year and throughout their lives.

    Anyway, I'm happy with all I got and have played guitar a ton more recently and have felt more creative. Most of that's from the actual practice and habit of doing it again every day, but I will admit that if it wasn't for my little spree to give me that artificial spark, I may have just kept drifting away from the guitar. Oh, and the DD-500 is still the best pedal that I own.

    Tl;dr A little retail therapy is sometimes just the trick.

  • @TheDubbyLabby - I’ve been where you are, at least in the sentiment expressed, and I’ll probably be there again. Hope you’re ok.

    @oat_phipps - Agree! Retail therapy hehe... Glad it jump started you.

  • edited January 2020

    @kinkujin said:
    @TheDubbyLabby - I’ve been where you are, at least in the sentiment expressed, and I’ll probably be there again. Hope you’re ok.

    @oat_phipps - Agree! Retail therapy hehe... Glad it jump started you.

    Well I try to be ironic (ok trollist) to avoid getting anything in too serious mood. Hard days elsewhere but keep walking it’s the only way possible... :wink:

    Thanks mate <3

  • iPad is the cure for all of this - spend 10-20 on the latest synth instead of 1000 on hardware; done

  • I have a fairly serious intention to get rid of all my vintage or old gear, for the real reason that it won’t get any better, condition-wise, it’ll only deteriorate further.

    That leads to thoughts about what I’ll replace it with. That inevitably leads to a lot of YouTubing and eBaying and time wasting. Then I conclude that I’ve got an iPad full of perfectly adequate funny-sound makers, 98% of which I don’t use (basically I only use the Korg synths, and then only from inside Gadget – I should expand that horizon).

    A case in point, I have three Oberheim Matrix 1000s, and I cyclically arrive at the conclusion that they’re the only analogue synths I really want, all others are not going to be any better than these. Then I think I don’t need three (which is true, one is fine, two perhaps, used together as one). Then I think I should keep the third as a spare as they’re old. Then I think they’re all old and I should sell them. Then I think they’re all quite old and power-hungry and a modern equivalent is going to be cheaper to run. Then I’m back to the iPad again. Then…

    You can see how a lot of this thinking is going around in circles.

    Just to escape from this, I’ve switched for some reason to the topic of which cheap manual Sony E-mount lens would be fun to use on my A5100?

    Same story, it always concludes with using the 16-50mm PZ lens I already have, or use my Sony RX10 (which is my real camera, and was intended to be my 'only one', which it was until I accidentally acquired the A5100 so I could mount my micro-Nikko 55mm macro lens on it to shoot my paintings.)

  • edited January 2020

    @u0421793 said:
    I have a fairly serious intention to get rid of all my vintage or old gear, for the real reason that it won’t get any better, condition-wise, it’ll only deteriorate further.

    That leads to thoughts about what I’ll replace it with. That inevitably leads to a lot of YouTubing and eBaying and time wasting. Then I conclude that I’ve got an iPad full of perfectly adequate funny-sound makers, 98% of which I don’t use (basically I only use the Korg synths, and then only from inside Gadget – I should expand that horizon).

    A case in point, I have three Oberheim Matrix 1000s, and I cyclically arrive at the conclusion that they’re the only analogue synths I really want, all others are not going to be any better than these. Then I think I don’t need three (which is true, one is fine, two perhaps, used together as one). Then I think I should keep the third as a spare as they’re old. Then I think they’re all old and I should sell them. Then I think they’re all quite old and power-hungry and a modern equivalent is going to be cheaper to run. Then I’m back to the iPad again. Then…

    You can see how a lot of this thinking is going around in circles.

    Just to escape from this, I’ve switched for some reason to the topic of which cheap manual Sony E-mount lens would be fun to use on my A5100?

    Same story, it always concludes with using the 16-50mm PZ lens I already have, or use my Sony RX10 (which is my real camera, and was intended to be my 'only one', which it was until I accidentally acquired the A5100 so I could mount my micro-Nikko 55mm macro lens on it to shoot my paintings.)

    You should sell those cameras and buy a forth oberheim. Or maybe sell the obers and buy another camera.
    Wait... better sell all and buy new iPad for Drambo.
    Mmm I’m agree with you, sell everything and buy a horse. That should be the best you can do. Yes.
    Then buy an oberheim, a camera and an iPad for the horse. These bastards love to make music and poo but are so cuuuuuute.

    :smile:

  • For reasons I had to add a computer monitor to my desk, which meant I had no space for a mixer anymore. Having only 4 interface inputs and limited desk space definitely helped me limit my spending and enjoying what I already have this last year.

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