Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.

What is Loopy Pro? — Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.

Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.

Download on the App Store

Loopy Pro is your all-in-one musical toolkit. Try it for free today.

Best AU3 drum machine for beatmaker 3?

jameslondon74jameslondon74
in General App Discussion

Hi all. I want to find a drum machine for use within beatmaker 3 and the scenes mode (I’ve tried patterning as IAA but The workflow totally sucks). I’d love randomisation, and something like the auto rotate feature in patterning. Been looking at EGPulse. Anyone have a recommend?
Thanks!

Comments

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Poly 2 if you mean drum machine using samples.

  • klownshedklownshed

    Bm3s own sampler.

  • gothamoddiseegothamoddisee

    I'd found the Patterning to BM3 workflow so frustrating, that I finally bought AUM.

    As a middle man, AUM isn't ideal - but then I consider the multitude of it's other uses and advantages... Oh sorry, I just realized I don't have a good AU3 drum for you, I'm just evangelizing AUM.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • jameslondon74jameslondon74
    edited February 2020

    Thanks guys. Let me refine my search a little..

    Ideally t ability to program my own sounds.. but also to use samples.

    I really want the auto rotate / randomise feature. (Does BM3 allow this?)

    And I want to avoid using AUM to minimise app switching while playing live.

    But out of interest.. how do you use BM3 with AUM??

  • animalelderanimalelder

    You can modulate parameters (envelopes LFOs S&H, multiple layers on a pad, assign macros...it’s already so capable

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    @animalelder said:
    You can modulate parameters (envelopes LFOs S&H, multiple layers on a pad, assign macros...it’s already so capable

    But that’s not what I want. I want to add randomness and moving variety to the pattern. Is that possible?

  • denxdenx

    I don’t have it (yet), but I read somewhere that digiStix drummer (4Pockets) has the round robin feature. Might be worth checking out.

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    It sounds like you are just after a sequencer rather than a full drum machine? You can load up the BM3 pads with any drum sounds you want and then sequence them with Rozeta X0X or another AU Midi drum sequencer that has velocity and rhythm variation/random/humanization.

    I agree trying to work with an IAA drum machine in BM3 is too prone to issues.

  • reasOnereasOne

    ya if you’re using bm3 then the 16 pad approach is really your best bet. load samples or sample instruments but trying to build / sequence songs using it to host iaa/au is pretty much just going to make you angry.. better off with cubasis or some kinda aum / xequence combo

  • denxdenx

    @gusgranite said:
    It sounds like you are just after a sequencer rather than a full drum machine? You can load up the BM3 pads with any drum sounds you want and then sequence them with Rozeta X0X or another AU Midi drum sequencer that has velocity and rhythm variation/random/humanization.

    I agree trying to work with an IAA drum machine in BM3 is too prone to issues.

    Oh, I misunderstood. Yes, Rozetta could definitly be useful.

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    Yes I think that’s the solution! Rozerra! Thanks.

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    How about playbeat for a drum sequencer? I love the idea of a midi sequencer to control pads in BM3 but wondering if there are any others

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    @reasOne said:
    ya if you’re using bm3 then the 16 pad approach is really your best bet. load samples or sample instruments but trying to build / sequence songs using it to host iaa/au is pretty much just going to make you angry.. better off with cubasis or some kinda aum / xequence combo

    I want to use BM3’s scenes mode for live performance.

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    @denx said:
    I don’t have it (yet), but I read somewhere that digiStix drummer (4Pockets) has the round robin feature. Might be worth checking out.

    What’s the round robin feature?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @jameslondon74 said:

    @denx said:
    I don’t have it (yet), but I read somewhere that digiStix drummer (4Pockets) has the round robin feature. Might be worth checking out.

    What’s the round robin feature?

    Round-robinning is when you assign more than one sample to a note or velocity range and rotate between the samples. It is used so that repeated notes don't sound identical and can add realism so that repeated striking of a note doesn't sound identical.

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @jameslondon74 said:
    How about playbeat for a drum sequencer? I love the idea of a midi sequencer to control pads in BM3 but wondering if there are any others

    Playbeat is good with lots of options for permutations and a pitch variation. One of the only sequencers, i think Poly2 can do it as well, that can half the number of BMP for drums ( ie if the tempo is 120 and you want a sparcer drum part on it will let you use 1/8 1/4 and 1/2 notes instead of 1/16 divisions). However, midi routing takes a bit more fingering around, also if your using it in aum and add some (IAA usually) instruments to your jam it will crap out.

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    @espiegel123 said:

    @jameslondon74 said:

    @denx said:
    I don’t have it (yet), but I read somewhere that digiStix drummer (4Pockets) has the round robin feature. Might be worth checking out.

    What’s the round robin feature?

    Round-robinning is when you assign more than one sample to a note or velocity range and rotate between the samples. It is used so that repeated notes don't sound identical and can add realism so that repeated striking of a note doesn't sound identical.

    Great thanks. I have Drum Perfect and know that it uses this (without it being called that!). Great feature.

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    @audiblevideo said:

    @jameslondon74 said:
    How about playbeat for a drum sequencer? I love the idea of a midi sequencer to control pads in BM3 but wondering if there are any others

    Playbeat is good with lots of options for permutations and a pitch variation. One of the only sequencers, i think Poly2 can do it as well, that can half the number of BMP for drums ( ie if the tempo is 120 and you want a sparcer drum part on it will let you use 1/8 1/4 and 1/2 notes instead of 1/16 divisions). However, midi routing takes a bit more fingering around, also if your using it in aum and add some (IAA usually) instruments to your jam it will crap out.

    I downloaded Playbeat last night. It's bloody amazing and does exactly what I want it to do.
    I do miss Patterning's auto-rotate feature though. Any drum sequencers that do that? Or any sequencers at all? I think Rozeta might.

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo
    edited March 2020

    Nothing besides patterning does rotation of patterns.

    Please beware that itS sync might drift like Riffer does.

  • senhorlampadasenhorlampada

    I may be tripping hard here.
    But if you want to use scenes... Probably you could setup a track in your scenes as a control message sender. So your BM3 sends a control message via midi to patterning to make it change the pattern. And then make use of the auto-rotate feature

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @senhorlampada said:
    I may be tripping hard here.
    But if you want to use scenes... Probably you could setup a track in your scenes as a control message sender. So your BM3 sends a control message via midi to patterning to make it change the pattern. And then make use of the auto-rotate feature

    Do it and post a vid 🙂

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    @senhorlampada said:
    I may be tripping hard here.
    But if you want to use scenes... Probably you could setup a track in your scenes as a control message sender. So your BM3 sends a control message via midi to patterning to make it change the pattern. And then make use of the auto-rotate feature

    That’s an awesome idea. So how would I set up beatmaker 3 and patterning? Would I run them both in a host like AUM or Ape Matrix? Or just run them independently?

  • senhorlampadasenhorlampada
    edited March 2020

    @audiblevideo said:
    Do it and post a vid 🙂

    :lol: no idea how to screen capture. But i'll try

    @jameslondon74 said:
    That’s an awesome idea. So how would I set up beatmaker 3 and patterning? Would I run them both in a host like AUM or Ape Matrix? Or just run them independently?

    I guess you could run them independently. I thought of this just because of some midi theory that just crossed my mind. Not sure how the midi implementation is on both apps. Gonna try something later when I get from work :wink:

    Edit:
    Just noticed this on Patterning's page

    Map your hardware MIDI controller to control mixer and sample settings, trigger pattern changes, and more. Assign CC’s, notes, or program changes to parameters using the MIDI learn function, and fine tune parameter ranges with the MIDI configuration menu. MIDI mappings can be imported from other songs to easily reuse your favorite mappings.

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo
    edited March 2020

    @audiblevideo said:
    Do it and post a vid 🙂
    :lol: no idea how to screen capture. But i'll try

    If you're on an iPad with ios 13 pull down from the top right corner and press the solid circle with ring around it to record (it will give you a count in). Repeat to stop rec.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @jameslondon74 said:

    @senhorlampada said:
    I may be tripping hard here.
    But if you want to use scenes... Probably you could setup a track in your scenes as a control message sender. So your BM3 sends a control message via midi to patterning to make it change the pattern. And then make use of the auto-rotate feature

    That’s an awesome idea. So how would I set up beatmaker 3 and patterning? Would I run them both in a host like AUM or Ape Matrix? Or just run them independently?

    Create a track in BeatMaker and set it to IAA and choose Patterning. Then make sure to set them to the same sync method. It seems like MIDI Clock is tighter in my iPad for those two being used together than Ableton Link.

  • senhorlampadasenhorlampada

    @jameslondon74 and @audiblevideo
    It seems as in theory its easier... Spent a few days thinking it was something I was doing wrong. But searched on BM3 forums, and Patterning forums. And although I love Ben (Patterning dev), he seems to forget his forum and Patterning 1 has poor documentation :lol:

    So I busted my ass and came into a solution. Will try to record or screenshot it later (got only 400mb free on my device).

    The solution

    1. Launch BM3
    2. Launch AUM
    3. Setup BM3 and Patterning inside AUM
    4. Route their virtual MIDI from BM3 to Patterning
    5. Inside Patterning song mode click on Midi Learn and a pattern
    6. Switch to BM3 and tap a pad
    7. Repeat steps 5-6
    8. Sequence the pad changes in BM3

    Maybe AUM can be skipped... trying it right now. But the issue was without virtual midi through a host, patterning wasn't recognizing BM3's midi

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @senhorlampada said:
    @jameslondon74 and @audiblevideo
    It seems as in theory its easier... Spent a few days thinking it was something I was doing wrong. But searched on BM3 forums, and Patterning forums. And although I love Ben (Patterning dev), he seems to forget his forum and Patterning 1 has poor documentation :lol:

    So I busted my ass and came into a solution. Will try to record or screenshot it later (got only 400mb free on my device).

    The solution

    1. Launch BM3
    2. Launch AUM
    3. Setup BM3 and Patterning inside AUM
    4. Route their virtual MIDI from BM3 to Patterning
    5. Inside Patterning song mode click on Midi Learn and a pattern
    6. Switch to BM3 and tap a pad
    7. Repeat steps 5-6
    8. Sequence the pad changes in BM3

    Maybe AUM can be skipped... trying it right now. But the issue was without virtual midi through a host, patterning wasn't recognizing BM3's midi

    AUM isn’t need. On my iPad gen 6, loading Patterning and setting up sync works flawlessly.

  • jameslondon74jameslondon74

    @senhorlampada said:
    @jameslondon74 and @audiblevideo
    It seems as in theory its easier... Spent a few days thinking it was something I was doing wrong. But searched on BM3 forums, and Patterning forums. And although I love Ben (Patterning dev), he seems to forget his forum and Patterning 1 has poor documentation :lol:

    So I busted my ass and came into a solution. Will try to record or screenshot it later (got only 400mb free on my device).

    The solution

    1. Launch BM3
    2. Launch AUM
    3. Setup BM3 and Patterning inside AUM
    4. Route their virtual MIDI from BM3 to Patterning
    5. Inside Patterning song mode click on Midi Learn and a pattern
    6. Switch to BM3 and tap a pad
    7. Repeat steps 5-6
    8. Sequence the pad changes in BM3

    Maybe AUM can be skipped... trying it right now. But the issue was without virtual midi through a host, patterning wasn't recognizing BM3's midi

    This is cool - I'll try it out. But I'm already jettisoning Patterning. I found some AUv3 drum machines that work well. None have a rotate feature, but Bamb Bos 'mutate' and Playbeat's randomise functions is good enough for now.

Sign In or Register to comment.