MIDI controller app that sends CCs

mistercharlie

I’m looking for a MIDI controller app that can send CC messages from a grid of pads. Recommendations?

JamMaestro

I got one the other day called CC PAL... it costs a $1 but did the job for what I needed at the time. Probably not the most hi-tech / technology rich as some of the other offering out there I'm sure... but it works.

Gavinski

Sonic Logic is pretty good, and reasonably priced

mistercharlie

Cool. Sonic Logic looks ok, maybe more than I need. CC Pal is sliders and knobs only. I need buttons!

MIDI controller looks ok:

https://apps.apple.com/app/midi-controller-remote-usb/id1470513354?l=en

ahallam

Maybe LK from Imaginando.

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/lk-for-ableton-live-midi/id944972221

mojozart

KB-1

aplourde

Any of the the dedicated controller apps like MIDI Designer Pro, Lemur, Sonic Logic or TouchOSC are obvious suggestions. They probably do more than you need, but can be configured in multiple ways and you might grow into their additional functionality.

If you're looking for an AU, Mozaic is certainly one option. There's even a script for basic MIDI controls (called, Basic MIDI Controls).

Another option is to use something that's set up for sending notes (e.g. Tonality) and use something like mfxConvert to change the notes to CCs.

mistercharlie

Nice, thanks for the suggestions. I don’t think KB-1 does CC values @mojozart .

What I’m trying to do is this: if you send a midi signal to the Digitakt on CC19, then the midi value (0-127) will select a sample slot on the Digitakt. 1 selects slot 1, and so on.

I thought it would be good to use this to easily trigger different samples on the same track, but it’s proving harder than I thought. You need to send the CC19 signal, and also a regular C3 note, in order to play the sound.

I’m going to post this to the Elektron forum too. Has anyone else tried something similar?

J_B

Get lemur. It’s got a minor learning curve but making basic controllers is incredibly easy and it can go as deep as literally any sort of interface you can imagine and be bothered to make. There’s a massive library of user created things. It will cover any sort of midi function you can imagine

mojozart

@mistercharlie KB-1 does have XY Pad and CC Control layouts.

I don't think you can tile the screen in XY pads though, currently, because of the borders. And what you're trying to do needs a button-like action, not a pad.

rs2000

@mistercharlie said:
Nice, thanks for the suggestions. I don’t think KB-1 does CC values @mojozart .

What I’m trying to do is this: if you send a midi signal to the Digitakt on CC19, then the midi value (0-127) will select a sample slot on the Digitakt. 1 selects slot 1, and so on.

I thought it would be good to use this to easily trigger different samples on the same track, but it’s proving harder than I thought. You need to send the CC19 signal, and also a regular C3 note, in order to play the sound.

I’m going to post this to the Elektron forum too. Has anyone else tried something similar?

I'd use Lemur because I have it but you can also use TouchOSC (even runs on an old iPod Touch v3 or an iPhone 4) or Mozaic AUv3 (if you want to use an AUv3 MIDI host like apeMatrix or AUM).
I'm a fan of Lemur because it's very powerful but the price is learning to use it which is not a 10 minute task. Nonetheless have a look at the Liine Lemur library, there's a good chance that something like your scenario is already covered.

wim

@mistercharlie said:
Cool. Sonic Logic looks ok, maybe more than I need. CC Pal is sliders and knobs only. I need buttons!

MIDI controller looks ok:

https://apps.apple.com/app/midi-controller-remote-usb/id1470513354?l=en

If you have Mozaic, with the Basic MIDI Controls script you can customize buttons (without programming) to send MIDI CC's. The buttons default to Program Change, but can be changed to any CC by turning a few knobs.

From the Help Section re. configuring pads:

Long-Press SHIFT in Pads view to enter configuration mode. There is only one configuration mode for pads. Settings are changed with the knobs at the right. First select a pad (it will light up), then select bewtween PC and CC mode with the Function knob. Each pad can have separate function and value settings. Tap SHIFT to exit configuration mode.

[edit] ... just read about needing to send a note at the same time. This won't do that.

wim

OK ... some thoughts?

• Xequence AU Keys has the ability to set a CC to be sent when you touch a key, the value sent depends on where you hit the key. So, you'd hit the key near the top to send the note and the CC-ON, and near the bottom for CC-OFF. No idea if this is a good solution since you may not want the note with the CC-OFF.
• This would be very easy to do in Midi Designer Pro, which also runs in Popover mode, so you don't have to leave AUM or Audiobus if that's what you're using.
• Writing such a script in Mozaic or Streambyter is a couple lines of code.
• Good ol' MidiFlow can do it easily ... external app though.
• You could use mfxConvert to convert the note to the CC, and parallel route the note.

mistercharlie

That’s a lot to think about. Very nice!

I’ll dig into info about Mozaic and Lemur. They seem like they might do the trick. I don’t mind a bit of work to get things set up. I hope that once it’s done, it’s done

wim

The advantage of Mozaic over Lemur is it's AU, so can run inside the host rather than switching apps. I think Lemur can run in popover mode though, so there is that.

mistercharlie

This is to control a Digitakt, but that’s a good consideration for future use. Also, Mozaic just looks cool.

wim

@mistercharlie said:
This is to control a Digitakt, but that’s a good consideration for future use. Also, Mozaic just looks cool.

MIDI Designer Pro is much easier to build in than Lemur, IMO. Butt-ugly though, whereas Lemur can look downright cool.