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You’ll need to talk to mrs Tyson I think.
Love this!
What are ‘follow actions’?
In Ableton, you can set up behaviours that happen after a clip is played and these are called follow actions. For example, it could just go to the next clip, a specific clip, play the same one again in reverse, go to a completely random clip, etc. And you can set different actions on every clip. There's loads of stuff you can do.
I’ll have a think about it. The under-the-hood part is trivially easy, but the UI part is harder.
Would you tell me more about the workflow specifics you have in mind?
Ah right! Of course, thanks, - a bit like some of the units in the Rozeta suite. I had been imagining all sorts of weird and wonderful things, I’m glad I didn’t ask for examples 😄
This sounds fantastic even on its own... but multiple instances as Audio Units!..... the mind boggles.
Actually, can you give me some more examples? I’m still not convinced the all-out many-to-many grouping is necessary, as you can still have tracks outside of play groups, and you can have arbitrary sets of mutually-exclusive play groups.
I’m thinking of the scene/tracks scenario ala Ableton (or LK, Zenbeats...) . Where you have tracks and scenes. I’m seeing the groups sort of like scenes, or parts of a song. Like these song parts and loops:.
Intro: drum A, guitar A, bass A
Verse: drum B, guitar A, bass B
Bridge: drum B, guitar B, bass C
Chorus: drum C, guitar C, bass D
Verse 2: no drum, guitar D, bass B
In my mind and from what I’m reading here, but obviously I can’t see workflow, you could do that with actions. But to me it’s either groups OR actions. So I define what plays where via UI (groups) or programming (actions). But again, I’m just guessing. The goal is to make songs “on the go” but having sets of loops that go together and you can launch all at once. So the parts of the “song” above could be preset groups that go together.
I’m confused about how that would work with actions... would the actions be triggered by one loop?. Again, without seeing it... but I would rather keep the “what goes with what” on a superior level (groups or song actions), not tied to a loop that’s actually just a part of that group... I don’t know if it makes sense!.
It’s all about being able to do/perform a song. Maybe my use case or desired workflow is “just me” and like, you say, it’d over complicate things. But what’s really important is that we get the new Loopy soon!!.
In my eyes, the easiest thing to do would just be to copy/paste the part into multiple groups. That's how i do it in ableton.
Yes, but one of my least favorite things to do in Ableton. I mean, how many extra mouse clicks that are completely unnecessary if you were able to do the inverse (assign a track to various scenes)?
This is going be a game changer, keep at it Michael!
So all we really need Michael to build is a “follow action” that could be programmed to duplicate a track into other groups? Would that do it?
I'm very happy to hear Loopy Pro will record and play MIDI too.
Instabuy!
Also hoping Loopy Pro ends up including a MIDI composing feature (a MIDI history buffer) that utilizes perpetual overwriting using a pre-selectable-length loop. That allows for experimental composing without needing to remain aware of any fixed-loop start and end points.
To me that would be the greatest new workflow capability in iOS next to Drambo's modularity.
I’m going to assume that edit functions will be added a’la Samplebot?
Got it, that makes sense - thanks! I'd be very happy to hear suggestions, but I can't yet think of a neat way to facilitate tracks being a member of multiple groups, without the actual setup UI becoming unmanageable.
Here's what it looks like right now:
But given that tracks are actually visually represented in space, having, say, the top left track being part of every group would be very visually confusing, I think. You can do this with colours, of course, but they're typically used for configurations of tracks of the same type (e.g. bass, guitar, drums, with specific effects for each, etc), rather then song sections.
I think @Hmtx has the right idea:
It's also quite easy to copy tracks - it's a two-finger drag from one track to another.
Follow actions will appear in the setup screen for each track, divided into sections for each event: start record, finish record, start playback, finish playback, whatever else I think of along the way. In each section you can put one or more actions, selected from the same list of actions as for MIDI learn and widgets. So, in this example, you could add an action to the "finish record" event which will copy the track over to your target track.
I'm actually wondering, too, whether it might be worth my adding a "mirror track", which automatically mirrors the contents of another track, so you can add it to other groups/colours but have the same content, and have it filled automatically upon record or import. Again, it's a balance between functionality and adding complexity. You'll still be able to do this using follow actions as above.
Not wanting to rip off someone else's work, but:
@Ben, how does GTL do this? As far as I can tell it's just got a 'master group' (which would be the equivalent of a series of ungrouped tracks in Loopy Pro, or tracks in a group which isn't set as mutually exclusive), and other groups.
Yep! Note that this'll be v1.1, though - MIDI tracks won't be there at launch, cos I just wanna get the damn thing out the door 😄 But MIDI tracks will behave exactly the same as the audio ones, so they'll have overdub (is that what you're describing?).
Yup, and for the initial loop of a session, there's both auto loop detection and trimming, and a way to manually edit the loop start and endpoints.
I cannot take this thread. There is just too much coolness going on in it. The new Loopy app looks brilliant. Good luck as it gets closer to a release date
@Michael How would the "mirrored track" be different from the two fingered copy from one track to another? Is it copying the actual audio file in the second instance so you end up with two audio files instead of one? I think the "mutually exclusive" feature actually handles a fair bit of the challenges here. By turning that off, you'd essentially be putting that group in the "master track". The challenge, I think, is that many of us think of multiple master tracks for sections of a song. That's where the ability to quickly duplicate tracks would be helpful.
Yes. Epididymal Hypertension ensues.
Thank you! 😄 I'm rather excited myself - after 6 years basically working in isolation, I can't wait to show it to someone! Bugger me, I can't believe it's been 6 years. How embarrassing.
It won't be different at all, really - it'd just be automated, which is important if those loops are being recorded live; you don't want to be doing stuff like copying tracks around during a performance.
Exactly, yeah; just having a master group/ungrouped tracks probably won't cut it for that use case. But I have a feeling that follow actions may be sufficient to make this work neatly (rather than having a 'mirror track') , and without too much configuration overhead; just have it copy the track over upon record. I might just provide specific instructions for that use case in the manual.
I think mirror tracks makes sense to me, especially if it mirrored any changes to fx or auv3 chains set up for that track. That is, if fx are on a per-track basis in loopy?
@michael: i, too, am in that camp where I would like to be able to record loops and be able to define some groups arbitrarily from the loops I've recorded -- without having had to plan ahead about how they would be used. I often want to use the same loop in multiple 'groups'. I wouldn't want to copy the loops because I want with one fell swoop to be able to record over the loop and have the new recording be used.
What about some group buttons where you can add any loop to any group and tapping a group plays the loops assigned to it?
Or maybe that is a task for a Mozaic script? I create a script to do just that. When I have a set of loops playing, tap one of 4 empty 'loopset' buttons which captures the mute state of the loops. Any loopset can play any set of loops. Once a set has been assigned, tapping it recalls the settings for all the loops (mute, volume, pan)
I'd be psyched to have the option to have one less row of loops than shown in the video and have a row of loopset buttons in their place.
FX are per colour (or on input channels), so that'll already be covered.
Well you may have felt in isolation, but I know many of us here on the forum (including me before i joined the forum, but was on your email list, watching your initial video blogs 6 years ago), have been with you along this journey! Just think of how many times we collectively googled loopy masterpiece looking for clues lol.
this makes sense to me too
You'll be able to do that automatically using the follow action setup described above, without having to do any manual copying.
Yep, you'll be able to do that. Here's an example of setting up an arbitrary group using a button:
The founding idea behind Loopy is to make it flexible, so you can pretty much set it up the way you like, without needing to write scripts or do anything like that.
Ah, thank you
Interesting, so colours are more similar conceptually to traditional DAW tracks, as in, any audio on the given colour track is effected by the same fx signal chain. very cool!
That's right, yep. Colours also hold configurations: playback, recording, audio output, and audio input (which can be specific input channels, an audio unit, or the audio output from a track group).
Great!