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Best iOS "DAW" to use with audiobus?
I have BeatMaker 2, and before I delve into learning all of its features just to get a new one, I wanted everyone's take. I DEFINITELY want something that does midi as well as audio ... Thoughts? Thanks so much!
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https://www.google.com/search?q=site:forum.audiob.us best daw lots of answers out there already and no new DAWs in quite a while.
If/when Korg's Gadget ever gets the ability to record audio - or at least import your own samples/loops ... then I would probably give me vote to that, as the workflow is just so so great in that app.
(I've got Nanostudio, BM2, & Garageband only for DAW's - so there are others who could probably respond better... they all have their pros and cons. Auria is probably the best sounding and has best plugins/fx - but no midi yet, Cubase still has some minor quirks and issues, BM2 is alright - but the interface is clunky and the built-in sounds and fx aren't very good.) Of course there are others I'm forgetting too...
Who knows, maybe with the release of Nanostudio2 sometime this year that will be the one that gets it right.
Cubasis works like a charm (again)since the last update.For me by far the best Midi/Audio(bus) solution on iOS (yet).Setting up an audiobus connection (with Midi)couldn't be easier.
Cubasis vs BM2? I really appreciate the posts ...
Current landscape I'd say Cubasis for audio and midi.
I had bm2 but found the worlflow / interface crushed my creativity. I come from a 'trad' daw layout history so Cubasis just makes more sense (and music) for me even though there are a few functions that it lacks from BM2.
Has anyone had experience using Auria and Drumperfect using MTC to start and stop Drumperfect with Auria?
@jg707 said:
Doesn't work for me. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I wasn't ever able to get DP to start with Auria. via IAA that is anyway.
Cubasis for me just for its ease of use and stabilty when making videos, Auria is incredible but juicy on your CPU and its a tough old learning curve, Cubasis just lets you get on.
But if you want a complex DAW with lots of control and incredible effects Auria is the way to go. When you start to buy the IAP's it starts getting expensive. I was lucky enough to get a promo code for Auria but I still had to buy the IAP's so I still spent around £80 on effects.
Yeah auria is brilliant but no midi and that's the request here...... Now, that might change very soon, or not
Yep, perfect summary of BM2, Cubasis and Auria. (I am up to around £500 now with Auria).
Midi should coming soon in Auria.
I think if Caustic gets bus and/or audio, Gadget's rein will be over as it is very flexible and ~1/3 of the cost.
BM2 vs Cubasis begs the question, what do you currently have for apps, and what is your intended usage, as both have their strengths.
Once the "old" DAWs get updated, this field will have more choices, but, Multitrack studio may be worth a look fer ya.
With regard to the BM2 vs cubasis question: I have a lot of the "standard" apps: thor, animoog, isem, sector, etc ... I REALLY like audiobus and want a workflow that incorporates that.
I bought BM2 (I think there was a sale, I don't remember) and am wondering what some of the general difference are between it and cubasis. Without midi, auria just is not an option for me right now.
Question about Cubasis: I read that if using audiobus, it's not processed in "real time" ... Is that still the case?
Cubasis is more like a standard desktop DAW.
If you're using Audiobus, it has to be processed in real time, otherwise buffers fill up and audio gets dropped.
Please forgive the newbie question -- I'm not sure what you mean by this ... ?
My suggestions is Cubasis as well, although, depending on the implementation, Gadget with audio tracks would be high on my list.
Currently i prefer working in Gadget for composing, as the workflow really fits me well, even though I've always been accustomed to linear DAW like Logic and Cubase and never really "got" the whole Reason / Ableton Live thing - but somehow Korg has got it right with Gadget - at least for me ;-)
I'm working on a song for a friend and I'm composing in Gadget. Had to add some cue vocals to the track and a quick export via AudioCopy, allowed me to import the mix into Cubasis and add the vocal track. I guess I could also have done it in realtime via Audiobus, but in this case AudioCopy was the fastest way. Of course now I just want audio in Gadget NOW! :-)
Anyway for audio + midi Cubasis is currently the best option IMO.
Main differences between Cubasis and BM2 are: Cubasis has slightly better effects, and BM2 has automation.
With the options available right now, I've stuck with BM2. If Auria gets MIDI, I'll switch.
And how is automation implemented in BM2?
you record, change a control while recording in BM2, and tgat change occurs on subsequent playback. Also if you change a CC via-MIDI, that's recognized in BM2 on subsequent playback (not quite automation, but still necessary in a DAW)
and if i understand correctly, you can't do that in cubasis?
Let me ask a different question - is midi implementation important? I guess I'm asking bc with audiobus, won't audio from a midi synth get transferred anyway? You can tell I'm a beginner
Midi would be important if you want to edit your notes. If you can play in realtime without error, or don't mind recording more takes, you can do without midi editing. Yes, midi synths record audio via Audiobus.
I'll probably go with cubasis anyway ... It looks a bitter easier, UI wise ... ?
@eroxxx said:
its coming in the next update and i bet they'll implement it in a very slick way.
Next update? I thought automation was supposed to be the update after next?
@eroxxx - As far as your question of MIDI implementation being important, I would answer with an emphatic yes. Having the MIDI data is the key to most remixes, and it also keeps your production process more versatile (you can send that MIDI data to whatever MIDI synth or drum machine or whatever, instead of just having audio). With that said, if the audio is the only important factor for you, and you prefer to just edit recorded audio (lots of producers do), then MIDI wouldn't be that important for you.
@CalCutta said:
scroll down the thread: http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=47875&sid=6980e158539beca2cc0c09c3cb1faaac&start=125#wrap
awesome, good to see, thanks!
If one had to ignore Cubasis and Auria (too expensive for me right now), how would you rate Multitrack vs BM2? My workflow at the moment utilizes about 6 guitar tracks, bass, a Thor synth and a DM1 drum track pasted in, so about 10 tracks, low CPU usage and basic compression and reverb. I do my final mastering in Mastering. With BM2 could I forgo DM1 by bringing in my own drum samples? Then there's also Meteor..
If you don't need to write midi within your songs, I don't think the simplicity of MT DAW can be beat. BM2's file system and copy/paste is a pain in the butt, and I can't speak for Meteor, but I know it's feature rich and if you just want a spot to lay down some tracks, it may have more than you'll need.