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Drambo by BeepStreet released

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  • bcrichardsbcrichards

    @RajahP i think your question was in regards to midi processor AudioUnit. This is for the app itself, so it can now be added to a DAW as a MIDI processor Audio unit. For some hosts/DAWs it’s not a real change, but there were less flexible hosts that could not take advantage of the midi processing aspects of Drambo due to there not being a dedicated MIDI audio unit (I think).

    Actual Audio Unit hosting is planned for the future though.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    So how come when I go into AUM and look for Drambo in the AU MIDI Processor section it's not there? It's over in the Audio Unit Extension directory as it always has...


  • JocphoneJocphone

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    So how come when I go into AUM and look for Drambo in the AU MIDI Processor section it's not there? It's over in the Audio Unit Extension directory as it always has...

    Try opening Drambo in standalone once, after updating.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @Jocphone said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    So how come when I go into AUM and look for Drambo in the AU MIDI Processor section it's not there? It's over in the Audio Unit Extension directory as it always has...

    Try opening Drambo in standalone once, after updating.

    Did so. Actually, did so twice. Once after updating and once after rebooting. No dice.

  • reasOnereasOne

    i canot figure out how to use one instance of drambo in zenbeats to send midi to several instruments, it seems each channel needs its own drambo? i’ve set up 2 auv3 synths and the only way to get midi to send is to have one on the same channel drambo of placed. ideas?

  • ciancian

    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

  • papertigerpapertiger

    @cian said:
    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

    Please consider emailing or messaging @giku_beepstreet he is probably one of the most responsive developers I have had the pleasure to correspond with.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    So how come when I go into AUM and look for Drambo in the AU MIDI Processor section it's not there? It's over in the Audio Unit Extension directory as it always has...

    Try opening Drambo in standalone once, after updating.

    Did so. Actually, did so twice. Once after updating and once after rebooting. No dice.

    Works here. Are you sure you're using the latest Appstore versions of AUM and Drambo?

  • ciancian

    @papertiger said:

    @cian said:
    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

    Please consider emailing or messaging @giku_beepstreet he is probably one of the most responsive developers I have had the pleasure to correspond with.

    I've mentioned it to him before on the forum, but I might mention it again I guess.

    There is a workaround, but it's painful.

  • RichtownsRichtowns

    Works here also. Latest everything @lukesleepwalker Maybe try a restart, soft reset thingy

  • rs2000rs2000

    @cian said:

    @papertiger said:

    @cian said:
    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

    Please consider emailing or messaging @giku_beepstreet he is probably one of the most responsive developers I have had the pleasure to correspond with.

    I've mentioned it to him before on the forum, but I might mention it again I guess.

    There is a workaround, but it's painful.

    It's planned to make the graphic envelope(s) re-triggerable so eventually they might be able to replace the classic envelopes.
    Modular systems are full of workarounds, otherwise you'd have an endless list of specialised modules. That's not really the concept of Drambo.

  • giku_beepstreetgiku_beepstreet
    edited October 2020

    @cian said:
    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

    We have modulatable Env flex (vactrol like with modulatable shape), Env AD mod and Graphic envelope. What else do we need? :) Whats so limiting?

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @rs2000 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    So how come when I go into AUM and look for Drambo in the AU MIDI Processor section it's not there? It's over in the Audio Unit Extension directory as it always has...

    Try opening Drambo in standalone once, after updating.

    Did so. Actually, did so twice. Once after updating and once after rebooting. No dice.

    Works here. Are you sure you're using the latest Appstore versions of AUM and Drambo?

    Confirmed. Works for me also, both AUM and AB3. Using iPadOS 13.7. Could this be another iOS 14 issue?

  • stellare_modularstellare_modular

    @uncledave said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    So how come when I go into AUM and look for Drambo in the AU MIDI Processor section it's not there? It's over in the Audio Unit Extension directory as it always has...

    Try opening Drambo in standalone once, after updating.

    Did so. Actually, did so twice. Once after updating and once after rebooting. No dice.

    Works here. Are you sure you're using the latest Appstore versions of AUM and Drambo?

    Confirmed. Works for me also, both AUM and AB3. Using iPadOS 13.7. Could this be another iOS 14 issue?

    Works in IOS 14 also, well I am on 14.2 beta 2.

  • branisbranis

    @uncledave said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Jocphone said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    So how come when I go into AUM and look for Drambo in the AU MIDI Processor section it's not there? It's over in the Audio Unit Extension directory as it always has...

    Try opening Drambo in standalone once, after updating.

    Did so. Actually, did so twice. Once after updating and once after rebooting. No dice.

    Works here. Are you sure you're using the latest Appstore versions of AUM and Drambo?

    Confirmed. Works for me also, both AUM and AB3. Using iPadOS 13.7. Could this be another iOS 14 issue?

    Works on iPadOS 14.0.1 here

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    Well, I did a hard reboot, updated AUM, and it still didn't show as an AU MIDI processor. So then I completely deleted Drambo and did a fresh download (not an update). That did the trick. That's the second time that has happened to me--where an update didn't actually update but deleting the app and starting with a fresh download worked. Hmph.

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Well, I did a hard reboot, updated AUM, and it still didn't show as an AU MIDI processor. So then I completely deleted Drambo and did a fresh download (not an update). That did the trick. That's the second time that has happened to me--where an update didn't actually update but deleting the app and starting with a fresh download worked. Hmph.

    That's strange. Were/are you subscribed to a Drambo beta? That could affect updating.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @uncledave said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Well, I did a hard reboot, updated AUM, and it still didn't show as an AU MIDI processor. So then I completely deleted Drambo and did a fresh download (not an update). That did the trick. That's the second time that has happened to me--where an update didn't actually update but deleting the app and starting with a fresh download worked. Hmph.

    That's strange. Were/are you subscribed to a Drambo beta? That could affect updating.

    Nope, not involved in beta at all.

  • ciancian

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @cian said:
    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

    We have modulatable Env flex (vactrol like with modulatable shape), Env AD mod and Graphic envelope. What else do we need? :) Whats so limiting?

    Well I do use the Graphic envelope, it's just kind of inefficient.

    Can you chain Env flex units to build an ADSR? If I could work out how to do that I'd stop complaining, I promise...

  • rs2000rs2000

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @cian said:
    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

    We have modulatable Env flex (vactrol like with modulatable shape), Env AD mod and Graphic envelope. What else do we need? :) Whats so limiting?

    The only little missing things in the Graphic Env are:

    • Retrigger mode
    • Sustain and release points
  • rs2000rs2000

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Well, I did a hard reboot, updated AUM, and it still didn't show as an AU MIDI processor. So then I completely deleted Drambo and did a fresh download (not an update). That did the trick. That's the second time that has happened to me--where an update didn't actually update but deleting the app and starting with a fresh download worked. Hmph.

    I've had this kind of very strange behavior a few times with different apps since iOS 11.

  • ciancian

    @rs2000 said:

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @cian said:
    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

    We have modulatable Env flex (vactrol like with modulatable shape), Env AD mod and Graphic envelope. What else do we need? :) Whats so limiting?

    The only little missing things in the Graphic Env are:

    • Retrigger mode
    • Sustain and release points

    Actually the big thing that's missing is parametric curves. I fake curves using lines (and the interface for this is excellent), but I would love to be able to create a curve and bend it.

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  • rs2000rs2000

    @cian said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @cian said:
    I wish you could mess with the curves on the ADSR/ADR etc envelopes. For a groovebox so focused on drums it's odd it doesn't give more flexibility on that as it can make such a difference to the sound.

    We have modulatable Env flex (vactrol like with modulatable shape), Env AD mod and Graphic envelope. What else do we need? :) Whats so limiting?

    The only little missing things in the Graphic Env are:

    • Retrigger mode
    • Sustain and release points

    Actually the big thing that's missing is parametric curves. I fake curves using lines (and the interface for this is excellent), but I would love to be able to create a curve and bend it.

    You can easily draw curves but you can't draw functionality. Approximating curves by a few line segments works very well in practice.

  • bleepbleep

    I wanted to see how Drambo behaves inside a BM3 bank, and whether BM3 macros could be configured for some Drambo targets. Sadly, Drambo doesn't expose any AU parameters in BM3, AUM etc. Has this been discussed before? Could there be some generic AU parameters available (similar to how Mozaic does it), and what about e.g. the scene morph slider?

  • giku_beepstreetgiku_beepstreet

    Drambo will host AudioUnits soon.

  • noobnoob

    eeeh.. Drambo is modular... it depends on what you build in it, there are no "global" parameters

  • ciancian

    @rs2000 said:

    You can easily draw curves but you can't draw functionality. Approximating curves by a few line segments works very well in practice.

    I would disagree. If you know the exact shape then it's reasonably easy to get it right. If you like to play with the curve (something I do a lot, as it makes a huge difference to the sound) it's kind of a pain.

    The envelopes in Nanostudio are very good.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @bleep said:
    I wanted to see how Drambo behaves inside a BM3 bank, and whether BM3 macros could be configured for some Drambo targets. Sadly, Drambo doesn't expose any AU parameters in BM3, AUM etc. Has this been discussed before? Could there be some generic AU parameters available (similar to how Mozaic does it), and what about e.g. the scene morph slider?

    No AU params but full MIDI control, including scene pads and morph slider. Use these instead.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @cian I agree that curve shapes are nice to have but not as important as ENV retrigger and sustain+release phases.

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