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Music collab discussion / ideas

ecouecou
edited April 2020 in General App Discussion

I wanna start a collaboration with my guitar player friend during this isolation period. We have the technical aspect covered. What I am interested in discussing the how.

If you do or have done music collaboration and wanna share your workflow.

Do you:
1 - Write a part then send to the other to write more. And so much.
2 - Use video conference to show ideas Then back to 1
3 - Other method

Btw: With him I play traditional rock music with instrument ( guitar, keys, bass, drum)

Comments

  • MrBlaschkeMrBlaschke

    Maybe @Martinj can chime in - he has done that before if i remember correctly :smile:

  • JocphoneJocphone

    From collaborating with @Bluepunk a couple of years back, I learned not to get too fixed an idea of what the other person would contribute. They will often surprise and delight in ways that yiou can't imagine.

    I wouldn't worry too much about planning and process though. Just get doing it and your enthusiasm vs time constraints will help you settle into a flow.

  • ecouecou

    @Jocphone said:
    From collaborating with @Bluepunk a couple of years back, I learned not to get too fixed an idea of what the other person would contribute. They will often surprise and delight in ways that yiou can't imagine.

    I wouldn't worry too much about planning and process though. Just get doing it and your enthusiasm vs time constraints will help you settle into a flow.

    That sounds like solid advice 👍

  • BluepunkBluepunk

    You two are already friends so maybe this doesn’t apply. @Jocphone and I didn’t know each other before we collaborated, we met in the virtual bar at SOTMC and soon progressed to PMing, chatting about our lives/family/experiences etc. For me this was crucial to our development. Cue Julie Andrews - Getting To Know You. Yeah, must deconstruct/destroy that tune one day. Joc is the brains, the creative genius of the partnership, I just swore and fucked around.

    Have collaborated with @AndyPlankton and @Artie Norton, both kind-hearted, brilliant musicians and I am privileged to have made music with them. The main thing is to have fun at the same time as gently encouraging/pushing one another to places you never thought possible.

    Go for it and please post your tunes. :)

  • JocphoneJocphone

    @Bluepunk said:
    You two are already friends so maybe this doesn’t apply. @Jocphone and I didn’t know each other before we collaborated, we met in the virtual bar at SOTMC and soon progressed to PMing, chatting about our lives/family/experiences etc. For me this was crucial to our development. Cue Julie Andrews - Getting To Know You. Yeah, must deconstruct/destroy that tune one day. Joc is the brains, the creative genius of the partnership, I just swore and fucked around.

    In my defense I must refute @Bluepunk in his allegations. He is the epitome of modesty and has such an extraordinary talent for wordplay, rhythm and timing. I would send him the most horribly unpalatable and disorganised noises and somehow they got turned into songs with Bluey's super abilities! If you heard the originals you would wonder why he bothered.

  • MartinjMartinj
    edited April 2020

    3 - other method 😉

    When I do collabs, usually one of the musicians lays down the basic track and the others add to it and record their additions as separate stems. Than one of the musicians mixes everything together. I’ve done a lot of remote collabs, I’ll add the latest one, a cover, that also features @AlterEgo_UK (Colin Powell) who has also done a lot of collabs, for example with Doug Woods and many others. On this I did the keyboard track and Colin and Evangelos played to it.

  • ecouecou

    @Jocphone said:

    @Bluepunk said:
    You two are already friends so maybe this doesn’t apply. @Jocphone and I didn’t know each other before we collaborated, we met in the virtual bar at SOTMC and soon progressed to PMing, chatting about our lives/family/experiences etc. For me this was crucial to our development. Cue Julie Andrews - Getting To Know You. Yeah, must deconstruct/destroy that tune one day. Joc is the brains, the creative genius of the partnership, I just swore and fucked around.

    In my defense I must refute @Bluepunk in his allegations. He is the epitome of modesty and has such an extraordinary talent for wordplay, rhythm and timing. I would send him the most horribly unpalatable and disorganised noises and somehow they got turned into songs with Bluey's super abilities! If you heard the originals you would wonder why he bothered.

    I would love too lol

  • ecouecou

    @Martinj said:
    3 - other method 😉

    When I do collabs, usually one of the musicians lays down the basic track and the others add to it and record their additions as separate stems. Than one of the musicians mixes everything together. I’ve done a lot of remote collabs, I’ll add the latest one, a cover, that also features @AlterEgo_UK (Colin Powell) who has also done a lot of collabs, for example with Doug Woods and many others. On this I did the keyboard track and Colin and Evangelos played to it.

    @Martinj said:
    3 - other method 😉

    When I do collabs, usually one of the musicians lays down the basic track and the others add to it and record their additions as separate stems. Than one of the musicians mixes everything together. I’ve done a lot of remote collabs, I’ll add the latest one, a cover, that also features @AlterEgo_UK (Colin Powell) who has also done a lot of collabs, for example with Doug Woods and many others. On this I did the keyboard track and Colin and Evangelos played to it.

    Nice tune! You guys are serious Queen fan.

    Is that a red special?

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Jocphone said:

    @Bluepunk said:
    You two are already friends so maybe this doesn’t apply. @Jocphone and I didn’t know each other before we collaborated, we met in the virtual bar at SOTMC and soon progressed to PMing, chatting about our lives/family/experiences etc. For me this was crucial to our development. Cue Julie Andrews - Getting To Know You. Yeah, must deconstruct/destroy that tune one day. Joc is the brains, the creative genius of the partnership, I just swore and fucked around.

    In my defense I must refute @Bluepunk in his allegations. He is the epitome of modesty and has such an extraordinary talent for wordplay, rhythm and timing. I would send him the most horribly unpalatable and disorganised noises and somehow they got turned into songs with Bluey's super abilities! If you heard the originals you would wonder why he bothered.

    @Bluepunk does possess a magic that I have been honoured to have had sprinkled over tunes and riffs I have sent him :)

    I think it was you @Jocphone who first encouraged myself to just go for it and see what happens, one of the best bits of advice I have been given !

  • MartinjMartinj

    @ecou said:

    >

    Is that a red special?

    Yes, Evangelos ordered it directly from Brian May’s webstore 😊

  • ecouecou

    It sure sound nice. Does he play it with a five pence like they should be played.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    All of thee above. I was in a few bands over the years, But I haven’t written with anyone in several years. But we tried any method, every method... But mostly these...

    1. one of us had a riff or melody or beat or bass line, that we both like and Decide to develop further
    2. We jammed together until something we like came out, Then take that part and develop it further
    3. Set a recorder, and have a jam session go back listen and pick out the parts worthy of development, maybe even say chords/Notes out loud so they are on the tape, and easier to write down
    4. Sometimes one person would have a near finished song, and we would help finish.
    5. Or one had a complete song and the rest played their parts.

    I read somewhere that Animal Collective wrote a recent album by sending pieces of songs to each other, each one added something then passed it along again. Since they all liveD in different countries at the time it’s how they were able to get work done.

    It’s very important to be open and honest, but also be able to take critiques and criticism. It’s hard not to take criticism on something you’ve written personally, but maybe it’s something for your solo project or something to use later on. it can sometimes be a tough dynamic, but having a partner that you gel with both personally and musically helps a lot. Good Communication, A Shared Goal, and practice will go along way.

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