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Best synths for experimental sounds on iOS? (Or - what would Hainbach use if he was an iOS musician?
Are there any synths on iOS that come close to doing what a beast like the Cocoquantas does, seen here in this super interesting demo by Hainbach, for instance. Things like: cross modulation of pitch between oscillators themselves, not using lfos, then allowing these sounds generated to be sampled and turned into loops inside the synth itself, these loops can then once again cross modulate each other. The most relevant section the video is from around 3 minutes onward for a few more mins, thanks!
Edit: I am guessing maybe drambo can at least do the cross modulation part? Though have no idea how it is done
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@Gavinski : I’m interested to see what people come up with here, but as a general idea I would say it’s worth thinking of AUM and the ease with which you can cross connect and patch audio (via FX slot sends) and MIDI (via the matrix) , and recycle and run multiple instances of audio via perfect loops created using the Quantum facility and the File Players in perfect sync and at any speed (albeit only down to 20bpm) make it feasible to think of the whole AUM ecosystem as a single, massively modular synth. I suspect Apematrix, which adds the ability to modulate almost anything might be even better, but for some reason I’ve never really clicked with it as I have AUM
I suspected you would be keen on seeing what comes up here my friend, haha. Yes, I’ve been going through a bunch of his videos the last few days, and thinking how I could do my own spin on these sounds with the tools I have, but it will definitely be interesting to see what some of the forum’s synthesis gurus have to say. Thanks as always for your tips
Shockwave is looking like a candidate for the cross-mod feature by the way
Guessing that Audulus probably is too, though it looks a bit complex for me at the moment
Go to hainbachs band camp and download his sample pack. Try running the samples through SynthScaper into Drambo
He has more samples available too through patreon. 10$ a month to have access
Thanks, yes, I've been playing with his samples, and my well consider patreon, Hainbach is so generous with his knowledge. Don't have synthscaper but I'm certainly a big fan of fieldscaper.
https://apps.apple.com/de/app/e-l-s-a/id833671355?l=en
and
https://apps.apple.com/de/app/enso-looper/id1449640589?l=en
come to my mind
You can load up some Quantussy Cells in miRack
For the sampler/looper section I would try FieldScaper or Enso or Drambo
Hainbach himself uses AD Quanta on iOS. But it's nothing like Cocoquantus.
Instead of looking for something like Cocoquantus, I'd suggest applying Hainbach's approach to Eurorack to ios modular. (See his feb 17 video:
)
(In mirack/vcv, NYSTHI Simpliciter covers the tape looping (morphagene) part of the equation; Audible Instruments Texture Synthesizer covers other parts.)
Enso is the bomb for this stuff, and one of my fave apps. Elsa I’ll have to check out. Can definitely recommend Shockwave, I bought it some time ago but never really got into it, after some noodling this evening I see now that it is wonderful for this kind of crazy stuff. Would definitely like to know what other apps have this cross mod function. Also these kind of features like note generation from envelopes, lfos etc are perfect. I only used this synth for presets for mpe before, I was missing out big time....
There was a discussion a while ago about this subject, specifically the ZachteMan featured in this video:
This led esteemed member @MrBlaschke to create a Mozaic script to emulate the device:
https://patchstorage.com/zachteman/
FWIW, while creating things from scratch in Audulus requires a lot of knowledge--there are a ton of pre-made projects that are pretty simple to wire together.
It seems like the tutorials are geared to people understanding programming modules and not so
much for people wanting to re-purpose modules.
Anyway, if you already have Audulus, track down the huge module archive that was posted. It contains some great effects boxes.
Would Layr fit into this at all? I don’t have it but wondering about it while it’s on sale...
Don’t overlook iLep which is geared precisely toward the Elektroakustische Musik that Hainbach is composing:
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/ilep/id1388225714
Would KarlHeinz Stockhausen be willing to kill for LayR?
Yes
Is a Cocoquantus?
No.
Drambo and miRack are the two that you can definitely build that with.
miRack has more sophisticated modules and Drambo is much easier to use IMHO.
That's very true. There are some real geniuses on the Audulus forum.
Great answer, made me smile
Thanks a lot for the feedback so far guys, will be looking into all these things. Is there a tutorial @rs2000 that shows how to do x-mod in drambo? I was playing around with it and couldn't figure this out, nor did I see something in the manual. May need a helping hand.
miRack
Drambo
Icegear synths
Spectrum
FM synths like KQ Dixie
These come to mind for possibilities of experimental sounds. To this, quirky FX like PhaseDelayArray and Delayrium are others to consider. Plus Mozaic and midi fx for modulation and LFOs.
http://pugix.com/synth/what-is-the-quantussy/
http://pugix.com/synth/eurorack-quantussy-cells/
he'd definitely be using all of Igor vasilev's apps
Everything from the following:
Icegear
Apesoft
Amazing Noises
Igor Vasilev
Oh come on an old AEG Hairdryer...... these Modular De Brocks
Are so much warmer sounding surround sound too !!
Don't know much about Hainbach but here's a rare photo of Hendrix trying to "joosh"
Up Noel Redding's Bass sound during the recording of "Are You Experienced".
Not sure of the make of the hairdryer, but it was probably modded by Roger Mayer
https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/secrets-jimi-hendrixs-guitar-setup-interview-roger-mayer
Well, that's the Audulus UI but that doesn't make its patches contributed by forum members worse. There's some fantastic stuff that could be a good source for Drambonian patches.
Drambo must be doing something right though, the amount of contributions from our great forum members seems to be considerably higher than in typical modular synths.
I've upped a short video with description. Does it help?
You can certainly patch it up in mirack, maybe drambo too. The recipe for patching quantussy cells is here:
http://pugix.com/synth/eurorack-quantussy-cells/
That’s extremely kind of you! Only problem is, I can’t see an x-mod module anywhere in the drambo modules, where is it hiding?
Edit: does it need to be made, perhaps? Not sure I know how to do that at this point, but I AM working my way through the drambo manual these days, and glad to say it is a pretty clear manual, though I guess it only barely scratches the surface of what can be done...