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Help with multi out in Zenbeats?
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I've just started using Zenbeats over the last couple of days. I'm trying to use multiout (Ruismaker in particular). I am adding the Ruismaker multi out to an instrument track and then I add sub tracks from the midi menu in the mixer so I can have kick, snare, hats on separate tracks so I can add different effects and sends. What I have found is that if I solo one subtrack such as snare, I still here the kick and hats. Am I missing something? When I do multi out in AUM I'm able to solo each channel and only here that drum part.
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Has it been updated to multi-out?
I don't know? Documentation seems to be lacking. The last update is Feb 28 so maybe not. But strange that multiout versions of the plugins are available
I reported the issue with sub tracks. They are looking into it. I haven’t tried any multi-out apps in ZB yet.
Related? Zenbeats currently only supports a master stereo out, and you cannot send tracks to separate audio outputs. This feature is on their list.
Zenbeats doesn't yet support multi-out. Their plugin scanning probably doesn't have the ability yet to distinguish a multi-out plugin and exclude it either.
Multi out works in ZB. I have the multi-out Pure Acid going to different sends. In the mixer view tap MIDI and then Add Sends. I have PA split to 2 sends. Drums on one and Bass on the other. Will be investigating further in AM.
Or maybe not. It sort of works but something seems to be missing in the routing. It almost works like it does in AUM but not quite. I have contacted Roland about it.
There was a big song and dance about AUM getting multi-out (and rightly so, it’s great!) but I don’t recall other DAWs getting it, no?
Looks like the pipes are there but the plumber was drinking. I get the same results as in AUM but the muting is wonky. I’ve reported it. Hopefully it’s something they can sort out quickly. On the other hand, I can still do multiple instances so it’s not a total dealbreaker. I’m getting to like ZB a lot. Very similar to NS2 in a lot of ways but with audio tracks.
There’s a lot of pissed up plumbers on iOS, still! I’ve not used zen for a while. Might have a player later, on your recommendation.
It mainly have time stretch and clip launching à la Ableton which is sadly lacking in NS2
The difference between having to load samples into a device to use them and just being able to drop them on the timeline and play from anywhere in the sample has been very liberating. Never got on well with the workflow of most DAWs on iOS except NS2. Now that I’ve been learning ZB I’ve discovered there’s a lot more there than I realized. I hated it at first. Of course YMMV depending on how you work. Suits me very well for the most part.
It suits me just fine once I started finding all the controls. Whatever it doesn’t do I just work around but it’s much more capable than I thought. I use the linear mode strictly. I’m not a clip launcher.
I’d use it for clips, I think. I tried the automation a bit ago, though, and it was hit and miss, at best. Any improvement lately, on that score?
Automation needs work. From what I understand the most recent update was in February and they are working on another. What I’ve been doing lately hasn’t required much automation and I was able to get by with what is there when I have needed it. It’s not horrible but could be tweaked.
Automation seems broken with 3rd party plug ins from what I've seen. I was trying to automate parameters in Blackhole and I get access to all of the plug in parameters but when I draw automation it doesn't seem to actually automate them when I play back. Also, do you know how to record automation? There is a record button on the automation track but I can't arm it to record.
Your findings with multiout is basically what I'm getting with Ruismaker. I set it up and put a delay on the snare channel and I can swear that was the only thing I can hear the delay on but without being able to properly solo the individual channels I can't be certain.
Overall Zenbeats is my favorite iOS daw already. It's definitely a work in progress but it's the closest to desktop daws I've used in the past. Arranging clips in the timeline works much better than other iOS daws I've used. Copy and pasting patterns, changing lengths and moving them between different tracks feels much faster and intuitive then others I've used. Happy I got it with the free sale because I played with the free version a few months ago and wasn't impressed enough to pay to unlock options
I think Cubasis has it too but not certain. Jacob Haaq did a video when multiout came out and I think he showed it in AUM and Cubasis but I'm not sure and too lazy to go back and watch it again right now
I was able to automate Mangleverb parameters the same way as other automation. Actually, if you use the paint brush tool you can paint in the automation while it’s playing. It’s really not much different than automation by recording knob movements. In many ways it’s more flexible because you’re not constrained to just twisting a knob.
I think the record automation function is for external controllers but that’s just a theory. I haven’t tried it yet. The more I learn this app, the more it’s becoming my DAW of choice. Like you I was not initially impressed with it but boy was I wrong! Since I got it free I was able to justify (LOL) some sound packs. There are some very nice sounds available. Alone they may not be “impressive” but they mix well.
I bought it full price, but that's fine - devs need to eat, too. I'll have another go, I think. Thanks for the info!
I didn't know Cubasis had it. I have that, too, so might check it out. Thanks.
It doesn’t.
Hi!
I don’t know if it did when this thread was started but Zenebeats does have multi-out instrument capability (not for fx that I know of).
I do have a question... I’d like to export separate stems from the multiout but I don’t think that’s possible. If I have a Drambo drum as multiout it doesn’t export separate stems per track. I suppose you can solo each kit piece and export as song... Anyone has had any experience with this?