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Sequencing apps that use staff notation?
I'm curious about sequencing with notation using a musical staff style interface.
I'm sure such an app would likely be incredibly niche, probably more so than hex trackers even. For me personally though, I find it much easier to visualize and internalize melody and rhythm.
The app I have in mind would be a simple Auv3 midi device. It would sync to host and allow you to specify key, and note input from keyboard or pencil support, with the basic tools such as rest / note duration / legato, etc being easily accessible. Recording polyphonic note input including quantized recording would be an option as well.
Since it probably doesn't exist, does anyone else share interest in a sequencing / arrangement app like this? It may take some years, but after I learn more about coding, I'd love to develop something similar.
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this would be cool. i don’t know any that send midi directly out yet. but i think they are working on it. Notion is pretty fun to write and export midi out to other apps.
Search ‘Music notation’ in App Store..I think Notion, which l have, is one of the best with excellent instruments library....
Real time as well as step record..
Does all notation jobs for most musicians...
But annoyingly quantise imported midi no....
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You will have to export MIDI from notion.
If you have a PC/Mac then both Reaper and Musescore can sequencer from scores. Musescore has (finally) matured into a really rather nice notation application (and it's free), but the sequencing is a mixed bag. 16 channels are your maximum. Reaper can obviously do whatever you need, and the score interface is okay but not perfect. Use them together and you get the best of both worlds. Write your scores in Musescore, export as MIDI to Reaper and you're good...
If Musescore is free I'll definitely give it a shot.
For this idea, I was thinking it'd be cool if there was a musical staff interface, with the function of a midi pattern sequencer. Like an Atom + Notion hybrid in Auv3 format. I know it doesn't exist, but I'd like to guage interest.
Multitrack Studio for iPad
Isongwriter has AB, IAA, & Core Midi - it’s more of a generative app, not sure how finely you can edit each note.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/isongwriter/id779340123
Symphony Pro prefer over Notion as it is better for drums and percussion
Your idea for an app sounds great especially if it can be used playing in real time as well. Most notation apps focus on presentation and printing but not so much on ease of sequencing.
It would be great if it could be used in tandem with favourite sequencer to display it's pianoroll in notation
The Notion app lists as features, "MIDI step-time entry with your favorite MIDI device, and
Record real-time MIDI input into your score"
I assume this means you could route midi output from any ios sequencer into Notion (e.g., using AUM) and it would assemble the sequence into a staff/note display. Is that correct?
Are there any other iOS apps that could do that? I don't necessarily care about staff display for defining the sequence, I'm fine with the various ways different sequencers have you do that, but I would sometimes like to see the generated music as notes on a staff.
I was surprised to find that Garage Band on the Mac has this. It'd be cool if they ported that over to iOS Garage Band. I might even use it then.
I'm not sure that's correct. I'd have to try, or someone else who has Notion...
If you have MIDI, then you can import it into Notion. I would assume that's true of Symphony Pro as well.
I’m looking for something like this at the moment.
I’d like to use the iPad as a virtual blank staff for scoring, sending MIDI Out to Reaper on my macbook. So this way one can handwrite the music with the pencil while all the notes/data is recorded in Reaper’s piano roll.
I know that in Notion it is possible to export a MIDI file, but the goal here is to record in real time, like a MIDI controller.
Is this possible with Notion or any other app?
I would suggest MTS Studio for basic scoring with MIDI out. With the expansion pack then you can also write to multiple staffs at the same time, e.g.
I do not know if anything will let you do quite what you are asking though, which sounds like a live interface to another sequencer. You would still need to play the piece in MTS and record/listen on the other side or save to MIDI first.
Yes, I do this with Notion - export as a MIDI file, then you can import that into a sequencer.
I’ll check that out. But, yeah.. I’m looking for something more like live scoring with the pencil. It’d be an amazing workflow for scoring. The closest thing I’ve found is handwriting with the pencil in Notion and then exporting the Midi file.
“Staff Sequencer”, where are ya?! 😂
Yeah, but i was looking for using it in real time.
@aleyas please, tell me that you’re still interested in developing something like this 😆
I created a suggestion ticket on Apple site in the past to add the score feature to GB (from macOS), import MIDI, display as score, edit score, export as MIDI and MusicXML. If anyone can do this gracefully, it would be Apple.
Except the core iOS GarageBand market wouldn't know a piece of sheet music is from a drawing of a swarm of ants. I can't imagine how tiny the fraction of iOS GB users would even notice, much less care.
GarageBand on the Mac is a gateway drug to get musicians to buy Logic and MainStage, so tantalizing them with something like notation is a clever piece of bait. GarageBand on iOS is there to sell devices and interest people in Macs.
But yeh, it'd be cool.
@aleyas What about Harmonywhiz by Jordan Rudess (Wizdom Music).
It's a harmonic generator that uses a notation interface.
You can play in a line or just paint it in like drag your finger over the staff like a magic wand and it will create a melodic line for you.
Then it will create a multi-part harmony and display the notation. It even displays the figured bass.
In expert mode you can edit all of the tracks in your arrangement.
It's not AUV3 but does have...
• MIDI in and MIDI out support
• AudioBus support
• AudioShare support
https://apps.apple.com/app/id629564112#?platform=ipad
I added it as a feature request to Atom 2 but I would love it if sequencers had a read-only live view of a MIDI file so when the file changed then so did its view of the data. This way you could edit the MIDI in your preferred sequencer and when you hit save it automatically updated in all the places that had it open for read-only. A sort of modular version of clip linking in NS2/Xequence 2.
Oh for sure. But I also made the post at a time I when I had just begun teaching myself my first language (C++) ...and unfortunately I didn’t keep up with it 😅. I plan on picking it up again though for a few life projects I wanna complete. Maybe you’ll see it by 2030 if all goes well haha.
I’ve been using Musescore for Mac recently though, and exporting the midi to Ableton and now Atom2. When I play midi sequences on IOS sometimes I also route it through Tonality’s Grand Staff, which visualizes the midi through notation (limited though).
Interesting!