Seeking advise on Dynamic auv3 plugs, limiters, Mastering etc

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GavrielProductions

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:
the logical signal chain is the one that works and you can't get around certain things like side chain, bus sends, bus groups, dedicated fx bus channels and the more power the DAW the better to keep live and available for tweaking so you don't have to return to original audio snippet and rebuild a signal chain.

I wonder how well AURIA PRO handles all this, I have the full version on my iPad but every time start working with it I give up beasts like re learning pro tools from scratch.

Auria Pro can do all this. I wouldn't give up on it, it's actually not that hard to learn.

im gonna get into it tomorrow, I need to track guitars with fx inserts and buses, I still don't see any real bus solutions for iOS where you have the send levels to a actual bus with its own fx inserts, really important for reggae dubb, psychedelic trip hop and even sorting string sections in back of a band.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/180413/#Comment_180413

I tried that and half of the plugs don't work, its a bit buggy

BitterGums

The Limiter from Amazing Noises is excellent. Use it on master channel and pre-mastering stereo bounces.
No Limits from DDMF is great too.

richardyot

@GavrielProductions said:

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:
the logical signal chain is the one that works and you can't get around certain things like side chain, bus sends, bus groups, dedicated fx bus channels and the more power the DAW the better to keep live and available for tweaking so you don't have to return to original audio snippet and rebuild a signal chain.

I wonder how well AURIA PRO handles all this, I have the full version on my iPad but every time start working with it I give up beasts like re learning pro tools from scratch.

Auria Pro can do all this. I wouldn't give up on it, it's actually not that hard to learn.

im gonna get into it tomorrow, I need to track guitars with fx inserts and buses, I still don't see any real bus solutions for iOS where you have the send levels to a actual bus with its own fx inserts, really important for reggae dubb, psychedelic trip hop and even sorting string sections in back of a band.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/180413/#Comment_180413

I tried that and half of the plugs don't work, its a bit buggy

Which plugins don't work? I use this all the time without problems, but it would be good to know if there are plugins that are buggy so we can let the devs know.

Also, what is your latency set to? Some plugins struggle at higher latencies.

GavrielProductions

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:
the logical signal chain is the one that works and you can't get around certain things like side chain, bus sends, bus groups, dedicated fx bus channels and the more power the DAW the better to keep live and available for tweaking so you don't have to return to original audio snippet and rebuild a signal chain.

I wonder how well AURIA PRO handles all this, I have the full version on my iPad but every time start working with it I give up beasts like re learning pro tools from scratch.

Auria Pro can do all this. I wouldn't give up on it, it's actually not that hard to learn.

im gonna get into it tomorrow, I need to track guitars with fx inserts and buses, I still don't see any real bus solutions for iOS where you have the send levels to a actual bus with its own fx inserts, really important for reggae dubb, psychedelic trip hop and even sorting string sections in back of a band.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/180413/#Comment_180413

I tried that and half of the plugs don't work, its a bit buggy

Which plugins don't work? I use this all the time without problems, but it would be good to know if there are plugins that are buggy so we can let the devs know.

Also, what is your latency set to? Some plugins struggle at higher latencies.

All 3rd party au plugs in the aux inserts refuse to re open and be edited once they are closed

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espiegel123

@GavrielProductions said:

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:
the logical signal chain is the one that works and you can't get around certain things like side chain, bus sends, bus groups, dedicated fx bus channels and the more power the DAW the better to keep live and available for tweaking so you don't have to return to original audio snippet and rebuild a signal chain.

I wonder how well AURIA PRO handles all this, I have the full version on my iPad but every time start working with it I give up beasts like re learning pro tools from scratch.

Auria Pro can do all this. I wouldn't give up on it, it's actually not that hard to learn.

im gonna get into it tomorrow, I need to track guitars with fx inserts and buses, I still don't see any real bus solutions for iOS where you have the send levels to a actual bus with its own fx inserts, really important for reggae dubb, psychedelic trip hop and even sorting string sections in back of a band.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/180413/#Comment_180413

I tried that and half of the plugs don't work, its a bit buggy

Which plugins don't work? I use this all the time without problems, but it would be good to know if there are plugins that are buggy so we can let the devs know.

Also, what is your latency set to? Some plugins struggle at higher latencies.

first off let me just say that I tried importing audio to give aura pro another shot today, with 23% battery life left on my iPad I simply gave up within 10 minutes after realising that aura pro fell short to Apple's new cloud service limitations, from what I can tell I can only import files from arias own directory or dropbox (with a extreme limited view to one folder or I missed something).

My files landed in the iPad pro's own folder via airdrop from my MacBook Pro, from there I had to find a way to get the files to dropbox so aura pro can actually see them, with no clue to what folder in dropbox auria pro is looking at I ended up syncing the files via dropbox over wifi from the MacBook blah blah blah.

Im expecting to hear something in the lines of its apple's fault, they restricted sharing between cloud services etc etc, which is true...but regardless of a very good chance its an easy process I ended up using cubists 3 again to keep my creative flow., the fact is that it took just too long enough for me to decide this, which is fair for a iOS or padOS app, I can't imagine how anyone else would risk dropping the kind of money I paid for aura pro considering you can never resell apps or return them after 14 days.

but I do agree that aura pro looks promising, I would like to think of it as a Neve version of pro tools but in reality it looks like that PC app called reaper.

Open files in slide over mode and just drag files onto your trax

GavrielProductions

@mjcouche said:
@GavrielProductions Are you trying to master without all of your tracks frozen/ mixed down?

I don't know what you mean by mastering in cubase, you cant master a set of songs for a record in cubase or any sequencer can you?

But if you meant doing finals in a sequencer its a huge yes ever since major labels and post production audio studios where doing this since the late 90s because we where finally able to use aux-bus channels to group, isolate and then balance the mix of a single or snd fx to film, but mastering of multiple tracks to match eq, levels and over all sonic identity still took place at the Record Plant etc etc.

GavrielProductions

@espiegel123 said:.

Open files in slide over mode and just drag files onto your trax

I guess this was only possible since PadOs?
Im off to the races with these tracks but i seriously think Auria Pro could appear a bit more easier, maybe even more attractive because i got the same exact feeling using it as i did the first time i used logic audio 1994 and since...the gui is ok maybe its the menus and several artists also shared the same views.

espiegel123

@GavrielProductions said:

@espiegel123 said:.

Open files in slide over mode and just drag files onto your trax

I guess this was only possible since PadOs?
Im off to the races with these tracks but i seriously think Auria Pro could appear a bit more easier, maybe even more attractive because i got the same exact feeling using it as i did the first time i used logic audio 1994 and since...the gui is ok maybe its the menus and several artists also shared the same views.

Nope. Any Os from 11 on.

GavrielProductions

@espiegel123 said:

@GavrielProductions said:

@espiegel123 said:.

Open files in slide over mode and just drag files onto your trax

I guess this was only possible since PadOs?
Im off to the races with these tracks but i seriously think Auria Pro could appear a bit more easier, maybe even more attractive because i got the same exact feeling using it as i did the first time i used logic audio 1994 and since...the gui is ok maybe its the menus and several artists also shared the same views.

Nope. Any Os from 11 on.

Still having aux limitations here,

Let me ask you this, does Auria Pro allow multiple fx inserts on aux channels?
I dont see any way to send a signal from a channel or a bus strip to aux or better known as a Aux and or bus channel strip.... from shat i see YOU CANT., and this is because aux are not like channel strips but more less like Small cheap garage band rehearsal aux fx where you can only use one single effect insert per aux correct?

In logic pro i send signals from a channel strip to multiple busses,
1 my 1st send levels are to a bus or aux that has a comp, eq, enveloper, (Lexicon or Eventide verb, sometimes even auto panning and stereo imaging.

2 my second is identical accept the verb is replaced by Delay or echo on stand bye.

3 4 Etc for a modulation buss strips the same comp, eq etc fallows as well

With Auria Pro i only see a aux option but each aux can only have a single fx insert (3rd party fx load but can be edited) , regardless of this limitation each aux has no vol, pan etc like a channel strip.

espiegel123

• richardyot said it better

richardyot

@GavrielProductions said:
With Auria Pro i only see a aux option but each aux can only have a single fx insert (3rd party fx load but can be edited) , regardless of this limitation each aux has no vol, pan etc like a channel strip.

I already posted a link that answered the question, but I'll post it again:

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/180413/#Comment_180413

But seriously, if you're not going to bother reading the answers, what's the point? I think the reason you're struggling is because you're too impatient to actually bother learning anything.

GavrielProductions

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:
With Auria Pro i only see a aux option but each aux can only have a single fx insert (3rd party fx load but can be edited) , regardless of this limitation each aux has no vol, pan etc like a channel strip.

I already posted a link that answered the question, but I'll post it again:

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/180413/#Comment_180413

But seriously, if you're not going to bother reading the answers, what's the point? I think the reason you're struggling is because you're too impatient to actually bother learning anything.

maybe we re talking names but mean different things, or im tired of dealing with work arounds apple's limitations, the image I add here is an example of my mixer or mixers I set up using PT and Logic along with hardware as well in the past such as ( neves SSL etc etc) and the consoles.

so in fact I will send to sub groups (or busses) to combine and isolate fo example drum channels-tracks, then from there use the aux-sends to a bus with all the bells and whistles I want to get on with my virtual mixer....thanks

PS
the lil "e" to edit the fx insert still refuses to open any 3rd party plug in, for example Eventide's blackhole reverb.

richardyot

@GavrielProductions said:
maybe im getting too old and tired of re earning apps and doing apples dance with work arounds to get things to happen on pads or iOS, , the image I add here is an example of my mixer or mixers I set up using PT and Logic along with hardware as well in the past such as ( neves SSL etc etc) and the consoles.

Just read the link I posted, it's all explained.

GavrielProductions

@richardyot said:

@GavrielProductions said:
maybe im getting too old and tired of re earning apps and doing apples dance with work arounds to get things to happen on pads or iOS, , the image I add here is an example of my mixer or mixers I set up using PT and Logic along with hardware as well in the past such as ( neves SSL etc etc) and the consoles.

Just read the link I posted, it's all explained.

You have to admit that its not as intuitive, for example after i drag and dropped audio files, set up a channel with aux in as you described (to recreate my pt/logic environment thank you) im now digging around to find out how i can name the tracks in Auria Pro’s arrange window,

I guessed how with the mix window but im completely baffled asking why the names i added on the same tracks of the arrange window do not show up by default.

Wait...i came back to say they did after restarting AP, never mind, jus a bug

espiegel123

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GavrielProductions

@espiegel123 said:
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Sorry but Auria Pro has its quirks, its not perfect, Cubasis 3 is even worse but over all dummy proof easy compared to Auria Pro which could be worse if there is no room to hear out users for improvements .

When we where discussing buss channels and fx inserts I was actually referring pro recording console type consoles which I what pro tools and logic simulate compares to Auria Pro's aux return type architecture which is based more on a cheaper small club rehearsal like live type consoles where they have a couple of aux sends and returns with fx built in., then you explained how its possible to built a real fx buss like pro tools, logic, Neve SSL etc etc. (which should be the case from he time you open Auria Pro).

Back to the topic, I returned to my fab filter Pro-L2 (I forgot to mention I own the whole fab filter bundle on Mac OS X) but I never use them unless I totally have to as I try to keep everything internal with logic which sounds better then most DAWS.

I found the fab filter Pro L-2 more transparent then Barricade although I do like it allot, I tried everything suggested here but "No Limits from DDMF" which I would like to in the future but the fab filter Pro L-2 has done the job for now.