Quick experiment, can you see this iCloud link?

u0421793

Can you view the video I’m sharing with this iCloud link?

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0kfBBwiTtmmevehX1bPWdHS4A#Newham_-_Beckton

It won’t be up for long, but I want to know if this is a worthwhile way of sharing videos rather than have to upload to YouTube and all that tedium.

qryss

I can see it to download it but I can’t see it to view online.

R_2

I can view it when hitting the vid on the bottom left.
But would prefer YouTube

McD

Yes.

I was offered a download and an import to iCloud photos option. I picked download and it looks like it will take about 6 minutes.

u0421793

I didn’t expect it to download, I expected you to be able to view it online. Bugger that, then.

McD

The video quality is really good... full screen option on a Mac. Great detail.
You could probably reduce the pixel count or frame rate and get some small files.

When you think about it. Every video stream involves a "download" so having each user do it once is better than repeat viewings. You can also serve 10 downloads at a time where 10 streamers would all be unhappy. The downloads just take longer but you view it when it's whole and great amazingly good quality.

u0421793

It was shot on my iPhone 8 Plus at 4K 60Hz, just as a handheld quickie test (no setting up, no background, no lighting, no lav mic, no tripod, all the things I’d normally do).

I don’t think this sort of thing used to be possible in iCloud until very recently, the file sharing. I really was expecting it to be streamed, or played from the cloud, rather than downloaded as everybody is saying they have to do. If it were simply playable where it stands, it’d be an interesting alternative to YouTubing. Similarly I think it’s well past the time that Apple should have been able to offer me a viable alternative to having to post photos to Flickr (which since a few years ago I can’t anyway, I’ve got too many photos to be a non-pro user, so I’m stuck with the photos that are up there and no more) (obviously paying them money is completely out of the question – their product still thinks it is 1998 or something). If Apple through iCloud were to offer some sort of album type of functionality, I could share photos + comments etc I take as I took them, without having to go anywhere else. I’m disappointed this isn’t possible or easy.

Nicebutfun

Video played no problem on Android phone

McD

@u0421793 said:
It was shot on my iPhone 8 Plus at 4K 60Hz, just as a handheld quickie test (no setting up, no background, no lighting, no lav mic, no tripod, all the things I’d normally do).

I don’t think this sort of thing used to be possible in iCloud until very recently, the file sharing. I really was expecting it to be streamed, or played from the cloud, rather than downloaded as everybody is saying they have to do. If it were simply playable where it stands, it’d be an interesting alternative to YouTubing. Similarly I think it’s well past the time that Apple should have been able to offer me a viable alternative to having to post photos to Flickr (which since a few years ago I can’t anyway, I’ve got too many photos to be a non-pro user, so I’m stuck with the photos that are up there and no more) (obviously paying them money is completely out of the question – their product still thinks it is 1998 or something). If Apple through iCloud were to offer some sort of album type of functionality, I could share photos + comments etc I take as I took them, without having to go anywhere else. I’m disappointed this isn’t possible or easy.

Downloading a high quality video is a great idea. Drop down the settings on the videos and upload several at different rates/resolutions and just upload you videos that way. If it takes around a minute to download many people would have a better experience than YouTube and be able to watch them offline too.

Streaming services need to be architected to avoid bottlenecks anywhere between the data (in this case 1 file) and the network of simultaneous users. For a service like YouTube this involves lots of
caches and multiple copies of the original data... and of course they also do what I'm suggesting...
optimize the payload to meet the users needs and avoid excess data movement. Under crisis streaming services automatically scale back on image quality to maintain streaming and avoid the dreaded buffering "windmills".

It's still a good idea. Once you upload the burden is shifted to the user to be patient for a better (and offline) experience. It's also easy to pull audio/video from your downloaded file which has a benefit.

u0421793

@McD said:

@u0421793 said:
It was shot on my iPhone 8 Plus at 4K 60Hz, just as a handheld quickie test (no setting up, no background, no lighting, no lav mic, no tripod, all the things I’d normally do).

I don’t think this sort of thing used to be possible in iCloud until very recently, the file sharing. I really was expecting it to be streamed, or played from the cloud, rather than downloaded as everybody is saying they have to do. If it were simply playable where it stands, it’d be an interesting alternative to YouTubing. Similarly I think it’s well past the time that Apple should have been able to offer me a viable alternative to having to post photos to Flickr (which since a few years ago I can’t anyway, I’ve got too many photos to be a non-pro user, so I’m stuck with the photos that are up there and no more) (obviously paying them money is completely out of the question – their product still thinks it is 1998 or something). If Apple through iCloud were to offer some sort of album type of functionality, I could share photos + comments etc I take as I took them, without having to go anywhere else. I’m disappointed this isn’t possible or easy.

Downloading a high quality video is a great idea. Drop down the settings on the videos and upload several at different rates/resolutions and just upload you videos that way. If it takes around a minute to download many people would have a better experience than YouTube and be able to watch them offline too.

Streaming services need to be architected to avoid bottlenecks anywhere between the data (in this case 1 file) and the network of simultaneous users. For a service like YouTube this involves lots of
caches and multiple copies of the original data... and of course they also do what I'm suggesting...
optimize the payload to meet the users needs and avoid excess data movement. Under crisis streaming services automatically scale back on image quality to maintain streaming and avoid the dreaded buffering "windmills".

It's still a good idea. Once you upload the burden is shifted to the user to be patient for a better (and offline) experience. It's also easy to pull audio/video from your downloaded file which has a benefit.

A significant downside is – suppose you download a 1 hour video at 4K, then decide after a few seconds that this isn’t what you want to watch?

u0421793

@Nicebutfun said:
Video played no problem on Android phone

That’s good, must be a modern phone, as it’s an HEVC file. Did you have to download it all first, or did it stream in place on the page, for you?

Jocphone

Are there an other links to share?

Like McD said, I could stream the video when I clicked on the smaller window.

Nicebutfun

Hi @u0421793
Just played fine
Didn't need to download
It's a Huawei mate 20 pro, it's about 1.5 years old
It's a great phone

Telefunky

@Jocphone said:
Are there an other links to share?

Like McD said, I could stream the video when I clicked on the smaller window.

same here on an Air-2 running IOS 9.3 ... but tapping the small window wouldn't have entered my mind, so thanks for the hint