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Best laptop for music production?

I make music with iPad, but I also use my laptop for a couple of synths (Serum, Omnisphere, Reaktor). I was using Reaper and a PC.

My actual laptop is gonna die soon. I'm looking to buy a new laptop for music production. MAC or PC, I dont care, I just want a fast laptop.

What is your suggestion for me? My budget is around 1500 CAD$.

I make music and I browse the web, I'm not a gamer.

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  • Windows: (I'm not a gamer either):

    Best I've used are the MSI gaming notebooks and the Clevo barebones (Sager/Schenker/ProStar/Mythlogic). They had the lowest DPC latency. DPC latency is hard to fix, so one of the thin and light Windows gaming notebooks should be fine. https://xoticpc.com/ tests for DPC latency.

    I'd get one of the $700-$1000 Asus or MSI gaming notebooks with the midrange Nvidia GPU, but wait until NewEgg, Best Buy, or Amazon drops the price by $100-$400 like they do often.

    Or one of the $900 Schenker (Clevo) barebones that Walmart sold for $400 last Black Friday.

    A refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad T-series or newer can be found for dirt-cheap.
    You can get one with Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 quad-core CPU, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GPU for ~$300-$400.

    Stay away from ultrabooks and tablets/convertibles. I learned that the hard way. (There's no way to enable all Windows Power Plans).
    Stay away from AMD CPUs or any Intel CPU less than an i5.
    Try to get 16GB of RAM or more.
    Try to get one with an Nvidia GPU. I personally avoid AMD GPUs due to long-standing mux issues. The built-in Intel graphics chip may suffice.

  • Actually, I'd probably just get an Apple-refurbished Macbook Pro with the newer keyboard.

  • @Sequencer1 said:
    Actually, I'd probably just get an Apple-refurbished Macbook Pro with the newer keyboard.

    +1. I’m using a mid-2012 non-retina MacBook Pro with only 8gb of RAM, booting from an external USB SSD and it’s working great with Ableton and a bunch of VST’s.

  • @Sequencer1 said:
    Windows: (I'm not a gamer either):

    Best I've used are the MSI gaming notebooks and the Clevo barebones (Sager/Schenker/ProStar/Mythlogic). They had the lowest DPC latency. DPC latency is hard to fix, so one of the thin and light Windows gaming notebooks should be fine. https://xoticpc.com/ tests for DPC latency.

    I'd get one of the $700-$1000 Asus or MSI gaming notebooks with the midrange Nvidia GPU, but wait until NewEgg, Best Buy, or Amazon drops the price by $100-$400 like they do often.

    Or one of the $900 Schenker (Clevo) barebones that Walmart sold for $400 last Black Friday.

    A refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad T-series or newer can be found for dirt-cheap.
    You can get one with Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 quad-core CPU, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GPU for ~$300-$400.

    Stay away from ultrabooks and tablets/convertibles. I learned that the hard way. (There's no way to enable all Windows Power Plans).
    Stay away from AMD CPUs or any Intel CPU less than an i5.
    Try to get 16GB of RAM or more.
    Try to get one with an Nvidia GPU. I personally avoid AMD GPUs due to long-standing mux issues. The built-in Intel graphics chip may suffice.

    Outstanding post. Thanks!

  • edited April 2020

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Sequencer1 said:
    Actually, I'd probably just get an Apple-refurbished Macbook Pro with the newer keyboard.

    +1. I’m using a mid-2012 non-retina MacBook Pro with only 8gb of RAM, booting from an external USB SSD and it’s working great with Ableton and a bunch of VST’s.

    YMMV, but my 2016MBP (13" touchbar) is the only mac I regret purchasing (I've been a mac user since the 90s). The compromises they have made to shave some weight and size off the 2015MBP (13") are aggressively idiotic across the board, and even more so for music production. They seem to have fixed the biggest issues on the new 16", but that seems far above the OP's budget. The 2016- 13" MBP have the same problems as lots of Windows ultrabooks for music production (e.g. bad thermal throttling becoming the bottleneck for lots of real time music tasks—tracking through plugins, playing synths, etc), with the added bonus of being unreliable lemons.

  • edited April 2020

    @ohwell said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Sequencer1 said:
    Actually, I'd probably just get an Apple-refurbished Macbook Pro with the newer keyboard.

    +1. I’m using a mid-2012 non-retina MacBook Pro with only 8gb of RAM, booting from an external USB SSD and it’s working great with Ableton and a bunch of VST’s.

    YMMV, but my 2016MBP (13" touchbar) is the only mac I regret purchasing (I've been a mac user since the 90s). The compromises they have made to shave some weight and size off the 2015MBP (13") are aggressively idiotic across the board, and even more so for music production. They seem to have fixed the biggest issues on the new 16", but that seems far above the OP's budget. The 2016- 13" MBP have the same problems as lots of Windows ultrabooks for music production (e.g. bad thermal throttling becoming the bottleneck for lots of real time music tasks—tracking through plugins, playing synths, etc), with the added bonus of being unreliable lemons.

    Yeah they made a few lemons. The 16” is superb though, but pricey.

    With the OP’s budget I’d get a second hand/recon 2012 MBP, I’ve seen them go for £500, and spend the rest on external SSD’s and an audio interface.

  • Get a refurb Lenovo... I would camp on the Lenovo Outlet site until a good price Legion series (gaming laptop) pops up. It’ll be big (15inch) but I’ve seen the 6core i7 models for around 500.

  • edited February 2021

    I faced the same problem as you. I am an ardent lover of Apple devices and did not want to take a laptop with a Windows operating system. For a whole month I was looking for a laptop that suits me and everyone advised only Windows, because it is more budgetary and economical. But one day I came across an article that talked about the 10 best laptops on the planet. And one of them turned out to be Apple MacBook Air - Silver. If you're curious, I'll go over the pros like aesthetics, build quality, Touch ID (fingerprint sensor), built-in camera quality, good battery life. Cons -8 GB of RAM, colors look slightly muted, lack of anti-glare display support. I do not think that these disadvantages are very significant, because of this I bought myself this laptop. So if you are interested in buying, you should check gadgetguide.in

  • edited February 2021

    I'd pick up whatever refurb ThinkPad X1 Carbon model is available on eBay for ~£300. Best music production PCs I've ever used and cheap enough to replace in a pinch if you ever have an issue (I had a stage screen fall on one at a concert and smash one once..).

    My experience with laptops is that specs don't really matter -- all computers are powerful today and you're going to load it up until you hit the upper limits on big projects anyway. More important is that the computer 'plays nice' and doesn't give you a load of hyper-technical bullshit issues that makes you spend months adjusting bios settings and deep dive tweaking operating system settings then eventually realise that it's a hardware limitation of the USB bus or some such. Never had a single issue like that with the refurb ThinkPad X1 option mentioned above.

    Also I've never had any overall good experiences with switchable graphics cards in a laptop. I prefer onboard graphics for music production -- much more efficient and trouble free for the task.

  • +1 on Lenovo Thinkpad series. I use a T440P since many years with W10 and since one year with Mojave and it’s so reliable for music production with both systems.

  • Any experience with Razer Blades? Spec wise it looks like it could be a good fit.

  • @Janosax said:
    +1 on Lenovo Thinkpad series. I use a T440P since many years with W10 and since one year with Mojave and it’s so reliable for music production with both systems.

    Largely yes but I had one of the 'E590' ones for a contracting job once, and that's where I learned that switchable graphics cards are overengineered garbage. Seems like a good idea but comes with sooooo much extra bios level hand-holding and hardware throttling that fucks with basic reliability. Avoid that family of ThinkPad machines. They look very impressive on paper but in practice I get much better performance out of my personal X1 Carbon Gen3 which has onboard GFX, half the RAM (8GB), less cooling ability and a less powerful version of the i7 CPU.

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  • edited February 2021

    @OscarSouth said:

    @Janosax said:
    +1 on Lenovo Thinkpad series. I use a T440P since many years with W10 and since one year with Mojave and it’s so reliable for music production with both systems.

    Largely yes but I had one of the 'E590' ones for a contracting job once, and that's where I learned that switchable graphics cards are overengineered garbage. Seems like a good idea but comes with sooooo much extra bios level hand-holding and hardware throttling that fucks with basic reliability. Avoid that family of ThinkPad machines. They look very impressive on paper but in practice I get much better performance out of my personal X1 Carbon Gen3 which has onboard GFX, half the RAM (8GB), less cooling ability and a less powerful version of the i7 CPU.

    +1 mine has only Intel graphics and a low power I7 4702MQ, it runs cool with lot of power.

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