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Any lemur gurus here?

Quick question if anyone’s about. I’m looking to either make +/- buttons to shift a CC value one value at a time, or alternatively get pads to send CC values. Not working how I would have guessed so a little help would be appreciated. Cheers in advance

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  • @J_B
    If you arrange the layout of your liking and provide description of desired functionality I'm happy to help out with the rest...

  • @0tolerance4silence That would be brilliant, nice one mate. So I’m using an octatrack and can select which slice of a sample plays with a knob that’s midi mappable. My plan is to use sliced chains of samples, as in like a chain of 32 kick drums and be able to instantly select any of them using lemur pads in a grid of 32. ideally the selected pad would stay lit.

    I could technically do this across all 8 tracks cause they each have their own midi channel but I’ll probably only really use 4 tracks for drums (kicks, snares, hats, rides). I figured if I can get it working for one track I understand setting it up the same way for the others, just on different midi channels. Failing this it would be great to get plus and minus buttons for each track to shift it one sample at a time. It would mean I don’t have to change tracks and could freely experiment with different drum sounds.

    Sketched up a couple ideas to illustrate what I mean

  • edited April 2020

    Yep, shouldn't be a problem and I'll be able to test it here as well :)
    Will let you know, probably tomorrow.

    Edit:
    I think it can be done as customisable on the fly... f.e T1 32 slices, T2 16 etc...
    Any UI preference, colours, skin (flat, pixel etc)?

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    Yep, shouldn't be a problem and I'll be able to test it here as well :)
    Will let you know, probably tomorrow.

    Edit:
    I think it can be done as customisable on the fly... f.e T1 32 slices, T2 16 etc...
    Any UI preference, colours, skin (flat, pixel etc)?

    Oh man changing it on the fly would be great if that’s possible! I usually use flat. I just make extremely simple controllers and stuff generally though so I was lost on how to make this. Not fussy about colours, whatever you think looks good!

  • @J_B
    Which iPad do you use? Just so it's not stretched...

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    @J_B
    Which iPad do you use? Just so it's not stretched...

    12.9 2019 iPad Pro currently

  • it is unfortunate that the Lemur forum is closed since some time. Such things could have been answered with a quick search, and with many active forum members giving a hand. At least the user library is still there:

    https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/

    Albeit without search function except ctrl-f. But people are still actively posting their creations in 2020.

  • edited April 2020

    @Phil999 said:
    it is unfortunate that the Lemur forum is closed since some time. Such things could have been answered with a quick search, and with many active forum members giving a hand. At least the user library is still there:

    https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/

    Albeit without search function except ctrl-f. But people are still actively posting their creations in 2020.

    Use this link: http://forum.liine.net/

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Phil999 said:
    it is unfortunate that the Lemur forum is closed since some time. Such things could have been answered with a quick search, and with many active forum members giving a hand. At least the user library is still there:

    https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/

    Albeit without search function except ctrl-f. But people are still actively posting their creations in 2020.

    Use this link: http://forum.liine.net/

    Cool, lemur forums is back up. I think @Phil999 is referring to the fact it went down for quite a long time for reasons unknown. Good to know that whole archive of information wasn’t lost to the void

  • @J_B I gave up hopes too and I'm more than happy that it's back up since a few months 👍🏼

  • edited April 2020

    @J_B

    As I might use this in the future as well, I added things here and there, hope you'll like it, if not let me know... it's easy to remove stuff :smiley:

    Both methods are included - use arrows at the top to walk through slices
    Tap triangle at the bottom of each track to customise them:
    - you can define the number of slices (8, 16, 32, 64)
    - you can define track number (basically variable midi channels), so if in some existing projects hihat happens to be on Track 7 you can switch to that channel
    - Using 3 sliders you can define track colours (RGB) avoid too bright colours to maintain contrast between selected/unselected slices
    You can store up to 8 snapshots, so you can recall slices with a single tap across the tracks - This will definitely require more work to give meaningful feedback and I didn't want to keep you waiting - tap and hold + at bottom right and tap one of the pads above to save currently selected slices... feedback, requests are welcome here :)

    Midi currently sent through Port 0, if you're planning to add this to a broader setup and need to change it find "c_target" in Project Global attributes (editable on iPad) and change its value.

    Let me know if there are issues (functionality or UI) because it was tested on smaller iPad and I'm not sure how will it scale...

  • edited April 2020

    Regarding snapshots, what I'm planning to add later

    • indication of which slot is used/empty, possibly with numbers reflecting stored slices
    • option to exclude track(s) from snapshots, so you can experiment with some track(s) while other track(s) remain fix, independent... I need to dig up some older scripts I've made because I figured it out once but it was looong time ago :)

    I'll also check how OT handles midi out to include midi feedback.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    @J_B

    As I might use this in the future as well, I added things here and there, hope you'll like it, if not let me know... it's easy to remove stuff :smiley:

    Both methods are included - use arrows at the top to walk through slices
    Tap triangle at the bottom of each track to customise them:
    - you can define the number of slices (8, 16, 32, 64)
    - you can define track number (basically variable midi channels), so if in some existing projects hihat happens to be on Track 7 you can switch to that channel
    - Using 3 sliders you can define track colours (RGB) avoid too bright colours to maintain contrast between selected/unselected slices
    You can store up to 8 snapshots, so you can recall slices with a single tap across the tracks - This will definitely require more work to give meaningful feedback and I didn't want to keep you waiting - tap and hold + at bottom right and tap one of the pads above to save currently selected slices... feedback, requests are welcome here :)

    Midi currently sent through Port 0, if you're planning to add this to a broader setup and need to change it find "c_target" in Project Global attributes (editable on iPad) and change its value.

    Let me know if there are issues (functionality or UI) because it was tested on smaller iPad and I'm not sure how will it scale...

    you have actually blown my mind, I never would have anticipated I would have got this back from a random stranger on the internet. i'm not even exaggerating, this has literally dropped my jaw. this is a crazy powerful feature addition. man I don't know how to return the favour, I owe you a solid. Im about to spend so much time with this, seems to be working flawlessly so far

  • Glad you like it :)

  • @0tolerance4silence Wow, that's a wonderful template! 😮

  • edited April 2020

    This is a tangent from the original topic, but is there an AUv3 that is just a single button (or a small grid I guess) that I can assign midi messages too?

    I'm really looking for one to use in AUM to map various actions in my project. I wish Lemur was AUv3 (but know that'll never happen). Streambyter's slider page is close but not quite what I'm looking for. Mozaic is rad but its too big.

  • edited April 2020

    @quartzite said:
    This is a tangent from the original topic, but is there an AUv3 that is just a single button (or a small grid I guess) that I can assign midi messages too?

    I'm really looking for one to use in AUM to map various actions in my project. I wish Lemur was AUv3 (but know that'll never happen). Streambyter's slider page is close but not quite what I'm looking for. Mozaic is rad but its too big.

    Yes: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/xequence-au-pads/id1453556216?l=en

    I'm not sure though if it supports MIDI messages other than notes on pads.
    @SevenSystems Can pads send controller messages (CC# and value)?

  • @rs2000 said:
    Yes: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/xequence-au-pads/id1453556216?l=en

    I'm not sure though if it supports MIDI messages other than notes on pads.

    Awesome thanks @rs2000 ! I didn't realize xequence pads could change size so much. I can put streambyter inbetween to convert to cc etc if needed :)

  • @quartzite said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Yes: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/xequence-au-pads/id1453556216?l=en

    I'm not sure though if it supports MIDI messages other than notes on pads.

    Awesome thanks @rs2000 ! I didn't realize xequence pads could change size so much. I can put streambyter inbetween to convert to cc etc if needed :)

    That's cool! 👍🏼

  • edited May 2020

    @rs2000 said:
    Use this link: http://forum.liine.net/

    it is back. Great news. Excellent news.

    Although it appears that the app needs an update. One cannot create and save and load a template on an iPad Pro. Since July 2019.

  • Anyone know if it's possible to use Lemurs "multiball" like in Gestrument pro to generate notes.

  • @Tamir_Raz_Mataz said:
    Anyone know if it's possible to use Lemurs "multiball" like in Gestrument pro to generate notes.

    Sure. Have a look at Lemur's sequencer objects too. They can be synced to MIDI clock as well.

  • Ok great. Thanks. What would be useful for me is to control Gestrument pros cursor with Lemur. Any idea how?

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Tamir_Raz_Mataz said:
    Anyone know if it's possible to use Lemurs "multiball" like in Gestrument pro to generate notes.

    Sure. Have a look at Lemur's sequencer objects too. They can be synced to MIDI clock as well.

    I actually would like to just get the “multiballls” to control Gestrument pro “cursors“. Any idea how to do so?

  • @Tamir_Raz_Mataz said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Tamir_Raz_Mataz said:
    Anyone know if it's possible to use Lemurs "multiball" like in Gestrument pro to generate notes.

    Sure. Have a look at Lemur's sequencer objects too. They can be synced to MIDI clock as well.

    I actually would like to just get the “multiballls” to control Gestrument pro “cursors“. Any idea how to do so?

    This involves nothing more than sending individual CC messages for each ball, correct?
    There are numerous user creations that do similar things on https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/

    Examples:
    https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/12/
    https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/391/
    https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/99/

    Plus some free and excellent premium content:
    https://liine.net/en/products/lemur/premium/squ4r-3/

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