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Yeah, IMO Ableton Link is no better than MIDI Clock. In some cases worse (especially when compared side by side with hardware devices). For me at least, the timing is not great (I have to jump thru hoops to get it to work properly in my use case). As I’ve mentioned many other times, I’d love to see MIDI Clock sync in AUM. I mostly use AUM as a host for AUv3’s and sequence them externally from a hardware sequencer. No MIDI Clock in creates all kinds of problems.
I don't agree or disagree. I was just relating my impressions based on posts I've read from the developer and even pop-up comments in the app itself regarding MIDI clock. It's always dodgy trying to comment on someone else's motivation, but I think I was on pretty solid ground there having followed the discussion pretty closely over the years. At any rate, it doesn't matter. He's said some time in the last six months or so that he'll be doing it at some point. ✌🏼
Sure, iOS updates are a constant source of surprises for developers and I really feel for them but an app that has supported good MIDI clock slaving 10 years ago still works today. So it's not really iOS but probably much more akin to the fact that a developer will have to invest some time to make it stable in different setups.
Which basically confirms what @wim just said.
I use a MC-707 as a master clock in my set up (mix of hardware & IOS) and sync AUM with it using the ‘midi link sync’ app & it works perfectly. Still wish AUM received midi clock directly from external source so I could cut this step out but at least it works.
I'm semi-successfully using link2midi to get midi clock from my hardware into the ipad and then into link.
this is a terrible solution. fragile and fussy. I would love to use my ipad as a multi-effects device for my live set! But really, who in their right mind would faff around with this? Especially if you have a 20-30 minute festival slot.
AUM is pretty rock solid. I wish you would pull midi sync in.
Then I could replace the tempo-synched eventide and strymon stuff in my live rig and also be able to get all kinds of tempo-synced granular stuff in.
Perhaps I'm dreaming, and the ipad is still a toy 12 years later. Perennially almost there.
Rens
@rens
Since MIDI clock master and slave sync has been added to Drambo, I'm using it much more than AUM.
If AUM has been your live multi-effects device by now, Drambo could be the successor on steroids
Hmm, I had missed that it gained added multichannel interface support. I will check it out. TBH i love the simplicity of AUM and am a bit fearful of complexity anywhere near my live setup (studio is a different matter) but will give it a shot.
I believe (from postings/comments in the FB AUM group) that MIDI clock sync is on the AUM roadmap.
Yes, correct.
Totally forgot about this thread.
Thank you @j_liljedahl for still considering this
Love that this is confirmed on roadmap!
My (and I'm sure many others') Eurorack system will LOVE this. just saying.
It would love this too….
https://circuithappy.com/products/ml2/
@AlmostAnonymous
Oh I totally forgot about. I was so excited when this came out.
Do you have a copy of this? How well does it work?
I found it too expensive at the time and opted for other options that are more flexible for my specific eurorack/iOS experiments (ES9, Pam’s New Workout etc).
Prob I may catch a used copy for cheap sometime.
@DatGood i don’t have a modular. too many cables. miRack has too many cables for me…..
I'll add to the chorus eagerly awaiting this update. Also, I am begging, BEGGING that AUM plays and stops via-MIDI clock independent of MMC. It would take too long to explain here in detail but I had to block all SysEx in my normal studio routing (was causing notes to hang during song locate). As a result, AUM is out of commission in my rig and I am really hoping to bring it back in with this update.
any news on midi clock slave?
Who are you asking?
I can't speak for the developer, but there has been no new news posted here or anywhere else that I know of. It's still planned per the last communication on the subject.
Yes, when I implement MIDI clock receive, it will of course also listen to MIDI clock start/stop messages, since those are part of the same MIDI clock protocol. The start message is what makes the receiver know which clock tick corresponds to the first beat onset.
No news yet, sorry. But as you all know it's on the roadmap. I'm currently caught up in other projects but will get back to AUM development later on.
Thanks 👍
I solved my“problem“ with the always magic „midi to link“ app.My usecase:
i use the ipad as a 4xmulti fx „hardware“ unit (4 sends from my hardware mixer into AUM) and it‘s handy to have it syncronized to the rest for timebased or sequenced effects.For this case the timing is not absolutely crucial and the midi-link app works just fine.
4xmodular hardware multieffect unit with luxury touchscreen control...That would have cost endless money back in the days 😂
AUM is pure blessing 🥰
i been using audiobus for my audio and midi apps because it slaves midi clock to my MC707 NO PROBLEM! But the routing in audiobus is garbage compared to AUM, do you have ANY idea when this might happen? People have been waiting literally years for this "simple" feature, which is in so many other DAW type apps. Forgive me for being blunt, but this should NOT be a difficult implementation to AUM considering it can sync to midi lync...
Is there a reason the 707 needs to be the clock source?
If for some reason the 707 must be the clock master, you can just run Audiobus as the Clock to Link bridge and still host everything in AUM. Audiobus doesn't have to be doing anything else. Just load an audio output (speaker icon) in Audiobus so that it has something running to keep it from going to sleep. Nothing needs to feed into the output.
Copping an attitude, and making uninformed judgements about how hard something is, not to mention assuming your request should have priority over the developer's other priorities, isn't going to get it done any faster.
I am integrating the iOS into my hardware rig. I do not always want to have it with my gear. My hardware rig is an MC707, TD3, Octatrack and TR8s. Each part of what i'm using can be used on it's own, starting with the MC707. I use the USB port with my iPad and now my MC707 is ALSO an midi and audio host for the iPad.
IDK why this is a big ask, considering audiobus can do it, zenbeats can do it, drambo can do it, and it's been "on the radar" for i think over a year now?
You're inserting the part where i'm "coping an attitude" when i am merely expressing disappointment at something that was teased at, over a year ago and has not yet materialized. What a jerk i am!
Bumping this to add myself to the list of people who would greatly appreciate this feature. I am willing to help test if needed!
Ditto. I use a Keystep Pro with AUM. Midi clock receive would be greatly appreciated.
Did you find any workaround to link tempo between the keystep pro and AUM? (Other than audiobus, that I do not have at the moment)
Unfortunately no. Audiobus seems the only solution to establish some sort of tempo link between KSP and AUM.