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Bloated NS2 app

KRPTKRPT
in General App Discussion

I’m currently struggling somewhat to maintain my NS2 size - it’s up to 4 gigs, not ideal for a 16 gigger like myself. Anyone know how to pair it down some? I haven’t purchased any expansions, but I have imported a 3 folders of samples, around 80-100megs each, not enough to have pushed up the volume to 4 gigs. Would archiving my projects, backing them up then reinstalling NS2 help in anyone’s opinion?

Comments

  • dendydendy

    not neede to reinstall.. just archive all projects (bear in mind that archinimg packs all used samples into project archive, so archive is self-contained)

    then delete all projects, check mixdowns folder and delete stuff there, delete unused not needed samples in library - that's all..

  • KRPTKRPT

    Okay thanks - so from a fresh install how big would I expect the complete app size to be? The built in kits and samples are read only as well, right?

  • rs2000rs2000

    @KRPT said:
    Okay thanks - so from a fresh install how big would I expect the complete app size to be? The built in kits and samples are read only as well, right?

    A fresh NS2 install is under 300 Megs.
    The most efficient cure for your space problems is converting your samples to MP4 audio (.m4a / AAC encoded).
    As far as I remember (@dendy, am I correct?), you can also include compressed audio files in Obsidian sampler patches. I would suggest encoding at a bitrate of 128..192 kbps, depending on the sound, ideally with variable bitrate so the encoder will choose what it takes.
    Using the encoder included with the latest iTunes will produce very good results (I would claim that you're not able to hear any difference in 99% of the cases).
    When loading, the compressed files will be expanded and use the same RAM as before but required disk space will be drastically reduced from your current 4 GB to less than 1 GB.

    I admit it's quite a bit of work but it's very efficient.

  • anicktanickt
    edited April 2020

    If you are showing 4 GB without IAP’s you have a lot more than 300 MB of samples somewhere. I ran NS2 on a 16 GB Air 1 and only hit that number with all IAP’s and a lot of imported samples/drum kits that were mostly 44/16 wav files.

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    @anickt said:
    If you are showing 4 GB without IAP’s you have a lot more than 300 MB of samples somewhere. I ran NS2 on a 16 GB Air 1 and only hit that number with all IAP’s and a lot of imported samples/drum kits that were mostly 44/16 wav files.

    Agree

  • dendydendy

    As far as I remember (@dendy, am I correct?), you can also include compressed audio files in Obsidian sampler patches.

    yes, all formats you can export, you can also load to sampler

  • WillWill

    The most efficient cure for your space problems is converting your samples to MP4 audio (.m4a / AAC encoded).

    +1. I've recently consumed this particular bit of kool-aid and it tastes very very good.

  • WillWill

    @dendy said:
    not neede to reinstall.. just archive all projects (bear in mind that archinimg packs all used samples into project archive, so archive is self-contained)

    then delete all projects, check mixdowns folder and delete stuff there, delete unused not needed samples in library - that's all..

    Note that archiving will initially double the amount of space required (X for the original + Y for the archive) so if you're near capacity on your device you may have to pull the projects and archives off as you go. If you have a computer, WebDAV will make this all a lot faster/easier than trying to do it all on the ipad via dropbox or something.

  • colonel_mustardcolonel_mustard

    @syrupcore said:

    If you have a computer, WebDAV will make this all a lot faster/easier

    +1

    Not always super fast over here, but always super useful

  • WillWill

    @colonel_mustard said:

    @syrupcore said:

    If you have a computer, WebDAV will make this all a lot faster/easier

    +1

    Not always super fast over here, but always super useful

    Right. WebDAV can be chunky at times but an order of magnitude faster than uploading it all to Dropbox before you have enough room to do the next archive!

  • colonel_mustardcolonel_mustard

    @syrupcore said:

    @colonel_mustard said:

    @syrupcore said:

    If you have a computer, WebDAV will make this all a lot faster/easier

    +1

    Not always super fast over here, but always super useful

    Right. WebDAV can be chunky at times but an order of magnitude faster than uploading it all to Dropbox before you have enough room to do the next archive!

    Definitely. I pity the fool etc.

  • CracklePotCracklePot

    I would check the mixdown folder first, before trying to archive everything.
    It could just be a bunch of forgotten mixdown files.

  • KRPTKRPT

    Thanks guys, I did check my mixdowns and it was empty - the culprit turned out to be a sub-sub-subfolder of high quality wav files - so it actually all comes down to my lack of sample organisation. To be honest I can’t complain about the use of WebDAV, even Airdropping is working wonders for transferring in a lot of cases. Still it’s all a bit clunky, but I guess no less clunky than any desktop sample situation...

  • TurntablistTurntablist

    Dont convert your samples to a lossy format, it is called lossy for a reason, yes you may be using a lot of storage but a wireless storage stick is a much better solution than lowering the quality of your samples and depending on how the software works, possibly even CPU consumption if it is converting those samples on the fly for playback.

  • KRPTKRPT

    Okay so I finally found the real culprit - the “inbox” folder was up to nearly 3gigs - I did notice that when clicking on my bounced WAVs in the Files app, it tried to open them in NS2 (uselessly!) and gave a quick warning message which I never took notice of - that “feature” slowly added up to a big bloated folder (with no readable files inside?)!

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