Is there a cheaper version of Digitakt?

SheffieldBleep

@Montreal_Music said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@DYMS said:

@Korakios said:
ElasticDrums is perfect for digitakt alternative but it doesn’t support direct sampling .
But I think all you need is an iOS looper

ElasticDrums is great, but the step by step probability and "P-Locking" of Patterning 2 is what brings it close to Digitakt for me.

GR-16 is basically a Digitakt, and so is Drambo.

GR-16 or Drambo?

I'm Brian and so is my wife

ohwell

@Fingolfinzzz said:

@kobamoto said:
or you could run a elektron model samples if you want that fee along with an iOS looper, huge bang for buck

Do you have an opinion on the elektron samples vs the kp3 at all? I’m in the same boat as OP with the same budget actually and want some hardware but can’t afford a mpc

Night and day use cases: one functions like a source/instrument, the other like a processor. E M:S is a drum machine/groove box with a powerful sequencer, but no built in sample recording capabilities (use factory samples, or upload samples from a computer). It functions like a sound source in your workflow. Korg KP3 is dedicated to mangling and sampling/looping external sources in real time. You’d want to feed it sound material from other sources.

MPC (and digitakt) is as much about sequencing workflow as it is about sample recording. If you absolutely need something that does both at a much lower price point, you could consider buying something used. That said, Model:samples’s balance of zippy workflow (once your samples are on there) and powerhouse sequencing capabilities are good value even compared to used gear. (Per track swing, trig conditions, probabilities, per track step count + speed, p-locks, the incredibly playable retrig, the simple but powerful sample manipulation features, and maybe best of all the crazy fun control all function, make for a really neat and powerful package.)

RUST( i )K

@Montreal_Music said:
I need an audio interface for my computer to plug my iPad in. I also need a looper/sampler. Indeed, I can bought a Digitakt to do all of these, but it is a little bit of an overkill for my need (and my budget). Is there a piece of gear that can play both role (sampler/looper and audio interface) but in a range of price of 150-500? I dont need all the bells and whistles of the DT. I'm in Canada so, 500 CAD is approx 350 USD, sadly.

Model Samples or buy Audiohub from Novation(used)

kobamoto

@Fingolfinzzz said:

@kobamoto said:
or you could run a elektron model samples if you want that fee along with an iOS looper, huge bang for buck

Do you have an opinion on the elektron samples vs the kp3 at all? I’m in the same boat as OP with the same budget actually and want some hardware but can’t afford a mpc

those are very different options, not really comparable... the kp3 has some limited non-quantized looping capability, a terrible file system for the samples it saves on sd but is otherwise really fun but it's nothing like the Model samples.

If you want something for composing /making beats etc.. between the two without a doubt the model samples is what you want... but the model samples does not sample and is not an audio looper, it's a Groovebox , a very capable one especially for the price you can get them used it's a steal and can be a ridiculously inspiring beat machine if you let it. you'll have to get accustomed to working with very little sample storage time and ram, if you can do that you will love it. The kp3 would make a very nice companion for the model samples and if you practice your timing you'll be able to make good use of it's un-quantized looping capability... pretty dope combo actually and if you look hard enough you can find a good price on a used kp3 as well.
you can slice up your loops on the kp3 and trigger them with the buttons at the top though the fx, so much great sample mangling to be had and resample that to other pads on the kp3..

Fingolfinzzz

@ohwell @kobamoto okay cool thanks for all the information. Yeah it sounds like the model samples would better fit what I need. The kp3 would definitely be useful for me down the road but not as important

Montreal_Music

@Fingolfinzzz said:
@ohwell @kobamoto okay cool thanks for all the information. Yeah it sounds like the model samples would better fit what I need. The kp3 would definitely be useful for me down the road but not as important

I have mix feeling about the KP3. Its a fun object, easy to use with many options, but I feel it is a master of none

I bought 3 KP3, sell it 3 times. When for whatever reason your loop dont want to save on the SD card, its very frustrating.

Fingolfinzzz

@Montreal_Music said:

@Fingolfinzzz said:
@ohwell @kobamoto okay cool thanks for all the information. Yeah it sounds like the model samples would better fit what I need. The kp3 would definitely be useful for me down the road but not as important

I have mix feeling about the KP3. Its a fun object, easy to use with many options, but I feel it is a master of none

I bought 3 KP3, sell it 3 times. When for whatever reason your loop dont want to save on the SD card, its very frustrating.

Ah that’s kind of a bummer, I’ve always been fascinated by the workflow of it. I’ll have to try one out sometime and see how I feel about it

kobamoto

I've never had any problems saving to the sd, did you check the cards themselves.. I had allot of issues finding the right sd card for my mpc, they def are not all the same.
I don't know if it's still like this as even though I still have a kp3 I don't save to sd anymore but what I used to get tired of is the naming conventions on the kp3, trying to remember what samples were what etc... , but in the moment of use they are pretty fantastic, still use it daily along with a kp2 and a crossfader in-between the two of them.