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Drambo+Cubasis

Thought I'd ask this workflow question:

I am currently using Drambo to sequence Cubasis 3 in order to take advantage of some of its Mastering tools. Drambo and Cubasis are both running stand alone.

I have Drambo sending Midi notes and sequences to Cubasis, which I have loaded with 8 Channels of my favorite synths. Now my question is, does anyone know how to host Drambo in Cubasis and have it be able to sequence from within Cubasis?

The reason I ask, is because I want to leverage some FlexiSampler features in Drambo for the sequence, and I'd like to do it directly inside of Cubasis, without having to flip back and forth between apps. I've tried going the AB route, but again, I'd like to do it all within Cubasis.

Any help in this department would be greatly appreciated.

FWIW, I thought Drambo might show up as a Midi FX in Cubasis, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Thanks as always to the many helpful people here :)
My gut says it's not possible, but my brain wants it to be so :)

Comments

  • Drambo should receive midi from Cubasis when loaded as a regular AUv3 instrument?!
    (At least It's possible to sequence the Drambo AUv3 inside Cubasis and freeze the output to convert it to audio).

    If you need to load an audio event from Cubasis into Drambo save the Audio Event to Cubasis Media Bay and use the Document Picker in Drambo to load the file from the Cubasis folder.

  • edited June 2020

    @Samu said:
    Drambo should receive midi from Cubasis when loaded as a regular AUv3 instrument?!
    (At least It's possible to sequence the Drambo AUv3 inside Cubasis and freeze the output to convert it to audio).

    If you need to load an audio event from Cubasis into Drambo save the Audio Event to Cubasis Media Bay and use the Document Picker in Drambo to load the file from the Cubasis folder.

    Thanks. But I want to use Drambo to sequence Cubasis from within the Cubasis. Trying to leverage all the Conditional Trigs of Drambo. I am guessing that this isn't possible right now or until Drambo shows up as a Midi FX inside of Cubasis :)

    As I indicated, I can do this now via AB or having a stand alone instance of Drambo and Cubasis running...but I'd like to keep it to 1 screen if at all possible.

    I guess Cubasis can't receive Midi from within itself unless it's being fed by a Midi fx is that correct?

  • @echoopera said:

    Thanks. But I want to use Drambo to sequence Cubasis from within the Cubasis. Trying to leverage all the Conditional Trigs of Drambo. I am guessing that this isn't possible right now or until Drambo shows up as a Midi FX inside of Cubasis :)

    Gotcha, so we'll have to ask @LFS nicely if there is a plan to add more advanced Midi-Routing to Cubasis 3 :)

    This way you could host Drambo AUv3 on one Track in Cubasis and another track or tracks could listen to it.
    (Ie. allow us as users to select other tracks or plug-ins as inputs or outputs to other tracks for both Audio & Midi).

    I guess Cubasis can't receive Midi from within itself unless it's being fed by a Midi fx is that correct?

    Correct, It's a 'missing feature' at the moment...

  • I don't know if it's a 'missing feature' as much as it is a 'desired feature'. But I hear you :)

    I'll just stick to the AB route and send Midi and Audio thru AB via a single instance of Drambo. This will allow me to get Midi from Drambo into Cubasis, and Audio from Drambo FlexiSampler into Cubasis...

    This is going to be a great week I feel :)

  • Just ran iNto this same question, @echoopera

    Did you try emailing @giku_beepstreet ? Maybe it is just a matter of allowing Drambo to appear as a MIDI effect? (Could it be so simple...? :smile: )

  • I haven’t since i just chose the AB route which seems to work well enough.

  • I will reach out and report back. I can’t handle that much flipping back and forth. :smiley:

  • edited June 2020

    yeah best is beepstreet forum

  • edited June 2020

    @echoopera have you tried the audioveek apps?

    https://audioveek.com/midi-tools/

    Just a thought.... :)

    Could get you that MIDI connection you're after.

  • @arktek

    Thank you for the recommendation. MIDI Bus worked in a quick test in Cubasis 3. I was able to sequence Spectrum with Drambo and record the midi from Drambo. You have my gratitude! Woohoo!

  • @arktek said:
    @echoopera have you tried the audioveek apps?

    https://audioveek.com/midi-tools/

    Just a thought.... :)

    Could get you that MIDI connection you're after.

    Oh snap. Let me give that a try. Been a while since I’ve used his tools. Thanks for the reminder sir 👊🏼™️

  • @arktek Thanks again for this. However, with Drambo, since it offers the ability to multi-route midi on a per track basis, I don't think this will work out for me.

    I am wanting to send 8 Midi Channels from Drambo into Cubasis...so I think I have to do it via the Stand Alone approach, or via AudioBus.

    The AudioVeek MidiBus tool is great for a single channel of Midi being sent from 1 track to another track within Cubasis...works great for this.

    Any ideas on how to get those 8 internal Midi Channels within Drambo to be recognized by Cubasis? I know I know...a sequencer within a sequencer...why? :)

  • I’m almost sure it’s not possible because all Drambo midi channels will be sent to an unique channel 1 in the DAW, it’s an AUV3 limitation.

    Does Drambo allow to be used in slide over mode?

  • edited June 2020

    @Janosax said:
    I’m almost sure it’s not possible because all Drambo midi channels will be sent to an unique channel 1 in the DAW, it’s an AUV3 limitation.

    Does Drambo allow to be used in slide over mode?

    Yeah...I can use it that way or via AudioBus...was just hoping for a tighter integration within Cubasis...was hoping Cubasis would allow internal Midi Routing and see Drambo as a source.

    Not a big deal as I figured out a workflow model which will suffice for now.

    Thanks for chiming in everyone.

  • I’m also trying to do this, mostly so I can save the state of Drambo inside Cubasis. Any progress?

  • edited June 2020

    @mistercharlie i don’t think it’s possible until an iOS DAW can receive multi routing internally and Drambo can point OUT to specific destinations. Right now you get a basic Midi Out from Drambo so there’s no way to point it at Cubasis unless it’s via stand alone or AudioBus setup.

    One really bad bug I’ve found going the AudioBus route is if you attempt to Share the AB setup all your instruments are stripped away in Cubasis and the Project is lost. Not sure why this happens.

    I’m just using Drambo and Cubasis in stand alone and doing the SlideOver to record and play.

  • I think I shall do the same. It certainly seems like the easiest setup. I shall save the sessions in AB instead.

  • @mistercharlie said:
    I think I shall do the same. It certainly seems like the easiest setup. I shall save the sessions in AB instead.

    Be sure to do a quick test with a few instruments...like I said, I was noticing that Cubasis was deleting the instruments in the AB setup. That was with the 3.1 update last week....not the most recent.

    test early and test often they say :)

  • I’ve been having some success using the OP-Z to sequence Cubasis, so I might just stick with that.

  • edited June 2020

    @mistercharlie said:
    I’ve been having some success using the OP-Z to sequence Cubasis, so I might just stick with that.

    Cool. Wish I could use my OP-Z more, but 3 of my lower octave keys continuously double trick whenever I press them. Super annoying to always have to clean up my recorded notes. Drambo is filling in perfectly for the OP-Z on the other hand which is great.

    I hope iFixit gets new a Key Bed for the Z cause I really love it.

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